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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:53 pm to Fleurs
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:53 pm to Fleurs
As a black guy this is stupid and pointless just to appease the masses now.. nobody today has enslaved me.. nor has any of us been enslaved. History is what it is.. we learn from it. We don’t want to swing so fast from one side to the other.. that is not what equality is. Trust me when I say if equality is forced and shoved down everyone’s throats racism will get stronger behind closed doors. We need a conversation.. both sides. There is serious issues in the justice system.. but there is also in our neighborhoods. We need to address it all.. when you have gang bangers leading the marches we have lost the point. Taken down a statue won’t change that.. might make you feel good, but pushes us further away from a real conversation and solutions.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 8:59 pm
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:07 pm to BamaBo7
I agree with and respect what you posted. Problems get pushed to the side because things get cluttered with a bunch of “background noise”
Posted on 6/8/20 at 9:10 pm to BamaBo7
Well said. I agree with every word.
100 times this. I fully support equality if we're talking about equal opportunity, and absolutely believe that is a noble cause. I totally oppose forcing equal outcomes. The only way to get equal outcomes is to actively exclude people who are deserving.
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Trust me when I say if equality is forced and shoved down everyone’s throats racism will get stronger behind closed doors.
100 times this. I fully support equality if we're talking about equal opportunity, and absolutely believe that is a noble cause. I totally oppose forcing equal outcomes. The only way to get equal outcomes is to actively exclude people who are deserving.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:22 am to BamaBo7
Very well said Bo.
I’m a History PhD and I don’t throw my weight around because frankly I don’t use the degree it was a gift from the Army.
My thoughts, many of these items have a stigma and are a temporary bandaid to a larger cause. However, at minimum I want to see all of them in a museum or battleground. They should not be destroyed. What happened to the 54th Massachusetts Memorial was horrible and shows the complete lack of education in our country. There is no finer example of American men of different races fighting and dying together.
This same notion is carried when people constantly misidentify the Confederate Flag with the Battle Flags of the Army of Northern Virginia and Tennessee respectively. These flags were brought back by the KKK and the Dixiecrats as a banner of hate quite frankly. It’s a lack of understanding and context. Applying today’s morality to the dead of history is ignorant.
I love our University and I think they can honor the dead while also making it tasteful. As it was mentioned, where is the line drawn with slave owners? The answer is you uplift their good deeds for this country as many of these Confederate generals did prior to the war and teach their faults to the young generation.
I’m a History PhD and I don’t throw my weight around because frankly I don’t use the degree it was a gift from the Army.
My thoughts, many of these items have a stigma and are a temporary bandaid to a larger cause. However, at minimum I want to see all of them in a museum or battleground. They should not be destroyed. What happened to the 54th Massachusetts Memorial was horrible and shows the complete lack of education in our country. There is no finer example of American men of different races fighting and dying together.
This same notion is carried when people constantly misidentify the Confederate Flag with the Battle Flags of the Army of Northern Virginia and Tennessee respectively. These flags were brought back by the KKK and the Dixiecrats as a banner of hate quite frankly. It’s a lack of understanding and context. Applying today’s morality to the dead of history is ignorant.
I love our University and I think they can honor the dead while also making it tasteful. As it was mentioned, where is the line drawn with slave owners? The answer is you uplift their good deeds for this country as many of these Confederate generals did prior to the war and teach their faults to the young generation.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:31 am to BamaBo7
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As a black guy this is stupid and pointless just to appease the masses now.. nobody today has enslaved me.. nor has any of us been enslaved. History is what it is.. we learn from it. We don’t want to swing so fast from one side to the other.. that is not what equality is. Trust me when I say if equality is forced and shoved down everyone’s throats racism will get stronger behind closed doors. We need a conversation.. both sides. There is serious issues in the justice system.. but there is also in our neighborhoods. We need to address it all.. when you have gang bangers leading the marches we have lost the point. Taking down a statue won’t change that.. might make you feel good, but pushes us further away from a real conversation and solutions.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 9:32 am
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