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re: Identity Politics are being used to divide this Country like no other time

Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:18 pm to
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That's some damn fine propaganda you got there.


I don't need propaganda to push my ideology or to lie about facts.

That would be you

Are you saying rationing care doesn't happen in socialist systems?

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Public systems generally ration care on the basis of a patient’s need, for example by covering priority cost-effective treatments, and through the use of waiting lists. Patients may also be asked to make a co-payment.


World_Health_Organization_On_rationing


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It is critical that the entitlements defined in a benefit package are delivered effectively within the fiscal constraints facing governments. A large mismatch between what is promised and what is delivered can seriously undermine a government's credibility in the health sector, and limit progress towards UHC. In such cases, rationing will start to occur implicitly, for example through increased unofficial payments, or poor quality of care due to a lack of medicines. Ensuring adequate revenues, minimal fragmentation in pooling arrangements, and effective purchasing mechanisms are all critical to ensuring that coverage is effective and the health system makes progress towards UHC.



Don't let facts get in the way of your propaganda
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 3:21 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49335 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 5:39 pm to
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don't need propaganda to push my ideology or to lie about

Sounds like you do
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Public systems generally ration care on the basis of a patient’s need, for example by covering priority cost-effective treatments, and through the use of waiting lists. 

So in other words when this actually happens those with the most critical need are put on top of the list

From the link you posted
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The private sector rations access by charging market prices to patients, with demand driven by a person's ability and willingness to pay

So if you can't pay you're fricked and by fricked I mean you're either getting no treatment or getting treatment and going broke

So as it turns out rationing actually does occur here as well

LINK

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there are 30.4 million uninsured people in the U.S. Not having affordable, comprehensive insurance coverage often means that sick Americans do not even get in the door to see a doctor. For those who do have coverage, new rules that allow states to circumvent the Affordable Care Act’s mandated essential health benefits may mean skimpy coverage for some.


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While Americans overall enjoy shorter wait times for specialty care, wait times for same- or next-day appointments when sick are around average compared to other countries. U.S. adults are among the most frequent users of emergency departments. Nearly half who do report doing so because they couldn’t get an appointment with their regular doctor.

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nearly one of five U.S. adults skip doses or do not fill a prescription because of costs, just 2 percent to 9 percent of patients do so in the other countries discussed here.
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