re: SEC HC rankings

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I've been pretty clear winning the SEC is definitely a noteworthy accomplishment. Winning a Natty is obviously more noteworthy.

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Yes. yet in spite of that you also said this:
No one remembers 2nd place, or who finishes top 4, or top 10. Kirby won an SEC Championship. That's all that's really noteworthy about his tenure so far at UGA.

So in your mind it is more noteworthy to win the SEC than it is to play for a National Championship. makes absolutely no sense. At all.

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Quote me where I said, "only national championships matter."

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When you said this:
No one remembers 2nd place, or who finishes top 4, or top 10.

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Everything else is pretty largely irrelevant.

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It is relevant to win the SEC, yet irrelevant to play for a National Championship. Perfect logic. Perfect.

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I mentioned beating Saban or Orgeron because some UGA fans act like Kirby is no. 2 in the conference.

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You want to play "Show me"? Show me the poster that said Kirby is the second best HC in the SEC.

I think the pecking order is pretty clear at the top.

Saban
Orgeron

Where it gets cloudy is after that. I mean, Fisher has won a NC, but has done little since. Malzahn has coached for a NC, but averages almost 5 losses a year since. Mullen has done a good job at MState and Florida, but has never won his own division. Kirby has coached for a NC and won his division 3 straight years,
and has been the most consistent of everyone outside of Saban and Orgeron.

Personally? I have a TON of respect for Orgeron. He saw a deficiency in his team and went out and fixed it.
That's why I give a clear #1 to Saban and a #2 spot to Orgeron.

#3-#5 gets cloudy. I put Kirby at #3 because he has been very consistent to date, and is winning and seems to be building. It is silly to compare Kirby Smart to any coach other than the ones that are currently coaching. An argument can be made for Fisher to be #3 because he has won a NC. I am not sure an argument can be made for Mullen....YET. Malzahn? No. He has got to be more consistent.

It is silly to say that the only noteworthy accomplishment a coach can have is winning a NC or winning the SEC, though. Making the playoffs, winning a playoff game are both noteworthy. Nothing personal, but I think if Clemson had beaten LSU in the NC you would be agreeing with me.