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Nah, you're not being objective at all You're choosing to look at only one thing of it and I'm looking at the entire picture that creates that one thing.

And you're acting like participation trophies count in college football.

Inputs don't matter. Only outputs.

Recruiting is irrelevant if you can't win the big ones. Again, you're a UGA fan, so I see why you're taking the stance you are.

Here are two examples:

Dabo Swinney. He wasn't recruiting lights out until very, very recently. Yet he has two national titles to show for it. He does more with less.

Kirby Smart. He's been recruiting lights out since day one at UGA. He has no national titles and sincerely struggles in big games. He does less with more.

Guess which of those formulas leads to job security?

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Posted by Porter Osborne Jr

Member since Sep 2012

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Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:26 pm to ibldprplgld

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And you're acting like participation trophies count in college football.

Nope, never once said anything remotely like that. Only that it's part of the job so it's retarded not to include in in the ranking.

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Inputs don't matter. Only outputs.

And you can't get the outputs without the inputs which you keep ignoring.

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Dabo Swinney. He wasn't recruiting lights out until very, very recently. Yet he has two national titles to show for it. He does more with less.

Nope, but he recruited a great qb in Watson who he wouldn't have won a championship without. But somehow that fact escapes you.

Coaches should be ranked by the total package which has a ton of variable. Otherwise coaches like Stoops and Mullen(had he stayed at MSU) would never be ranked fairly because they are probably never going to win at those places but they're some of the better coaches in the league.

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Posted by DawgsLife

Member since Jun 2013

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Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:46 pm to ibldprplgld

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Dabo Swinney. He wasn't recruiting lights out until very, very recently. Yet he has two national titles to show for it. He does more with less.

And yet after getting his best class ever at Clemson he got blown out in the National Championship game. Don't get me wrong, I think Dabo is a great coach.

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Kirby Smart. He's been recruiting lights out since day one at UGA. He has no national titles and sincerely struggles in big games. He does less with more.

He just finished his fourth year as a head coach.

I don't think we (Georgia fans) would deny that he has a lot to learn, but he is showing that he is learning.