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re: Historical Elite Program Rankings

Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:22 pm to
So then tell us what is a better method?

AP Poll is the best method of determining a programs year-to-year success we have.... by a long shot. Nothing comes close.

Is it perfect? Absolutely not. I wish they had conducted a final poll AFTER the bowl games much earlier than 1965.... that error cost Arkansas a National Title in '64.

I wish they had consistently included 25 teams. It was just 20 teams up through 1960... then only 10 teams from 1961-1967.... then back to 20 teams until it finally expanded to 25 teams in 1989.

But for all of its historical issues, its the best method we have for measuring consistent performance of programs back to the 1930s.

Before you criticize, perhaps come up with an alternative.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3477 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 3:35 pm to
No it is not Kyle, that is why many do lots of hard research on football and look at rosters down to the last man, compare the schedules, scoring, look at the records of team, what little we can dig up on formations, stats, which players made all conference, all American, who were the coaches (this really matters) down to the assistant coaches. What was their recruiting like (harder to come by pass 1950, will tell you the first national known recruit was Young Bussy in the middle 30's). Look at the over all teams depth and see what the players did.

Once you go back to Iron man football it gets easier to tell the best teams.

Ranking teams all time is not an easy matter it takes lots of time and lots of research 1000s of hours.

Not grab a poll do some quick math system and say x is correct.

The more work put into a matter of this type the better the result will be in the long run.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 3:37 pm
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