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Targeting Rule Change?

Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:29 am
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:29 am
Should offensive players who lower their head into the impact zone just before impact be penalized? As of now, the defender is penalized. That’s the biggest crock of crap about the whole targeting controversy to me.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42973 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:31 am to
Are you sure it’s not already a rule? I know it is at the high school level but it’s rarely called.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:37 am to
No , not sure. If it is, I have never seen it called that way. What I am referring to is like when a QB or WR dips their body right before impact causing a defender who was in correct position to impact at the pad level to impact in the ear hole.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Should offensive players who lower their head into the impact zone just before impact be penalized?

For the most part, no, since they are usually just bracing for an impact. It's up to the defender to tackle them within the rules.
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
6430 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:50 am to
the defender should not be leading with the crown of their helmet. period.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47139 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:53 am to
targeting is for pussies
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56108 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:00 am to
quote:

the defender should not be leading with the crown of their helmet.


So a ball carrier can go in head first during contact but a tackler can't? Something is wrong with that.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Should offensive players who lower their head into the impact zone just before impact be penalized?


No. The defensive player shouldn't be penalized, either.
Posted by AUFP91
Member since Dec 2017
235 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:05 am to
The defender should never lead with his head. This is just as dangerous for the defender as it is for the one being tackled. This rule was put in place to protect both players in this situation. That being said, a quarterback or receiver or any other player that has the awareness of the defender and impending collision that is able to lower and lead with his helmet is no longer a defenseless player and is just as guilty of a foul as the defender.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:06 am to
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So a ball carrier can go in head first during contact but a tackler can't?
The defender is initiating the contact 99% of the time. It's his responsibility.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47139 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:08 am to
spearing has always been a penalty, re leading with the crown of the helmet

targeting is some fantasy soyboy bullshite that includes the side of the helmet making incidental contact with some part of the offensive helmet, and per the lack of planning from the committee of soyboys, nobody knows how the fricking rule is supposed to be interpreted

so back to penalizing spearing and enforce it strongly and move on
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47139 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:09 am to
said the guy with a soccer team as his signature team
Posted by Jim Sweet
Easley
Member since Oct 2018
1226 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:10 am to
you still cryin about this kid?
Posted by crimsonblooded
Alabama
Member since Jul 2013
5 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:12 am to
The whole idea for the rule is to reduce head injuries/ concussions. The only way to make that work is to play the game as if your not wearing headgear. You wouldn’t normally lower your head in that situation, you would be more careful. The fact that your wearing a helmet is now just a safety benefit, not a battering ram. That works both ways, offense and defense.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:17 am to
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said the guy with a soccer team as his signature team
I would consider changing it if they had the correct logo for any of my other teams.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47139 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:21 am to
valid points sir
Posted by MikeAV8s
Member since Oct 2016
2197 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:24 am to
If you think the current targeting rules are bad, just wait, it’s going to get worse. The truth is that the more that is learned about concussions and accumulation of head injuries, the more will be published and the more the cry will rise to reduce/stop it. I’m on the fence, the cumulative effect of concussion/head injury is real, so how do we save the purity of the game? Anyone who doesn’t believe the game is dying need only ask youth league and school coaches if there are fewer kids playing football. Parents not wanting their kids to have CTE is a huge reason. I don’t have answers, that’s just my .02.
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 8:27 am
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
6430 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:26 am to
if you are arguing about the call against OSU as TL was going down, TL was going down and putting his head in the way BUT the defender put his head down and lead with the crown. the rule is there so that by training he never does this. keep your head up!

I don't recall seeing many calls for targeting on running backs when they lower their heads going forward.
Posted by Bosethus68
We Call It Dat Boot
Member since May 2011
5270 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:52 am to
What about when a RB/WR/Kick Returner jumps and ends up putting a knee to a defenders head? Nothing called.

Posted by Gremlins Village
East Texas
Member since Apr 2008
984 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:59 am to
I agree there should be offensive targeting and should go one step farther. Offensive face mask - when a runner stiff arms a defender by putting his hand into the defenders face mask. Just my opinion.
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