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re: Ranking the 1-Loss Playoff Teams by Quality Wins
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:50 am to BHMKyle
Posted on 11/21/19 at 11:50 am to BHMKyle
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ESPN controls the Playoff. Yes, Kirk Herbstreit is singularly more powerful than any one person when it comes to deciding the first four teams.... including every single member of the committee.
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of course Alabama gets in over any other team that's within reason
there wasn't another team wtihin reason. Ohio State had 2 losses.
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Just not Bama. That's the entire point.
You have clearly gone off the rails with this conspiracy. Let me ask you...can you put together a compelling case for ohio state going in 2017? You want to say "bama didn't beat anyone" and fine, that has some merit. But I'd like ot know how you can say with ironclad certainty that OSU deserved to go more with 1 extra loss, includign one about as bad as ours to SC this year, while keeping in mind bama's lone loss was on the road to the #2 team.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 12:14 pm to WG_Dawg
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can you put together a compelling case for ohio state going in 2017?
Of course I can.
Ohio State won a Conference Title... against an opponent that came into the game with a perfect 12-0 record. Alabama didn't even win their division.
That right there is compelling enough.
But I'll go on...
Ohio State played the #2, #6, #9, and #16 teams
Alabama played the #7, #17 and #23 teams
Ohio State literally played four opponents that were deemed better than Alabama's second toughest opponent.
One of Ohio State's losses was to the Final Committee Ranking #2 team in the country back in Week 2... Had Alabama played an opponent like that, there's a good chance they would have also had a second loss.
The fact that Bama lost the only game it played all season to a Top 16 ranked team (by double digits) does not inspire much hope that they would have defeated the #2 team in the regular season had they played them.
So yes, Ohio State had a second loss. But they played a MUCH more difficult schedule. And the Conference Championship should offset that fact. Especially since the committee says that Conference Championships have a lot of meaning.
IMO, there are always multiple factors:
Conference Championship?- Ohio State wins that category
Strength of Schedule- Ohio State wins that category
Quality Wins- Ohio State wins that category
Comparing losses- Alabama wins that category
But in the end, "eye test" wins out. As it always will when Alabama is involved.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 12:46 pm to WG_Dawg
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You have clearly gone off the rails with this conspiracy
It's not a conspiracy if it happens over and over again.
Look at this season.... It's already happening:
#5 Alabama- ZERO wins against Top 25 teams
#6 Oregon- Win over #23 USC
#8 Penn State- Wins over #13 Michigan and #17 Iowa
#9 Oklahoma- Win over #14 Baylor and #22 Iowa State
#10 Minnesota- Win over #8 Penn State
There are literally four other 1-loss teams who each have much better quality wins compared to Alabama. Yet which of the above ranks the highest?
Drum roll please....
IT'S ALABAMA!!!
What a shocker.
And yes, you can say their loss was to the #1 team in the country, but to anyone who watched that game knows it was never close. LSU dominated from start to finish. Alabama never once led. LSU led by more than one score for over 30 minutes of game time. Again, Alabama led for zero seconds in the game. Bama also scored on a 1-play 85 yard pass with 1:21 to go in the game to make it look more respectable, but it was a beatdown in Bryant Denny to anyone who watched.
Penn State lost on the road to a Top 10 team in a game that was much closer throughout.... yet they have two wins over Top 17 teams. Remember, Bama has zero wins over Top 25 teams. There is no reason right now for Penn State to be ranked behind Bama other than "brand". Zero.
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