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re: Hard to believe that UGA & UT have met only 48 times in their histories

Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:54 am to
Posted by TideOverride
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:54 am to
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Series stopped over bad blood based on Wally Butts giving Bear Bryant inside info on our plays and players after he was forced out by the University


None of what you have written is true and you have been revealed to have no character or class.

You are a poster not to be trusted at your word.

Post put out of bidness

This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 4:55 am
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:55 am to
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Series stopped over bad blood based on Wally Butts giving Bear Bryant inside info on our plays and players after he was forced out by the University


The court said differently. Both Butts and Bryant sued The Saturday Evening Post, won their respective lawsuits, and put the magazine out of business.

Butts had stepped down as football coach in 1960, and was forced out as the AD in 1963 due to the fallout over this scandal and because of his alleged womanizing. Bryant, of course, suffered no such fallout.

It was before my time, but from what I have read on the subject of Butts, it was time for him to retire, anyway. During the decade of the 50s, despite having some pretty good talent, UGA only managed a winning record in 4 of 10 seasons, and the best of those years was the 10-1 SEC Champ team of 1959. Other than that, a lot of mediocre seasons.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:07 am to
quote:

quote:
Series stopped over bad blood based on Wally Butts giving Bear Bryant inside info on our plays and players

Not really.It was stopped after the Saturday Evening Post controversy. Both sides agreed to it.


saturdayeveningpost.com

quote:

On March 23, 1963 the Post ran an exposé on college football, The Story of a College Football Fix, charging that James Wallace “Wally” Butts Jr.—the University of Georgia’s athletic director and former football coach—had given away game secrets to Alabama head coach Paul “Bear” Bryant that affected the outcome of a 1962 Georgia-Alabama game.


you were saying?


Posted by DustyDinkleman
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:08 am to
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GO DAWGS! SIC'EM! WOOF! WOOF! WOOF!



Cringe
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:11 am to
quote:

quote:
Series stopped over bad blood based on Wally Butts giving Bear Bryant inside info on our plays and players after he was forced out by the University



None of what you have written is true and you have been revealed to have no character or class.

You are a poster not to be trusted at your word.

Post put out of bidness



everything I said was true; that incident was an underlying factor in the annual series getting shite canned

and I really do not care whether you think "I can be trusted at my word"

do you have any idea how ridiculous you look with that comment?
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:23 am to
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The court said differently. Both Butts and Bryant sued The Saturday Evening Post, won their respective lawsuits, and put the magazine out of business.


see, I never made any claim about the veracity of the claim (that Butts gave inside info to Bear) - I don't know and really don't care if that was true or not

I said that the incident was why that annual game was ultimately taken off the schedule

the fact that it took a few years after the incident is irrelevant - redoing a schedule is impractical for the next year on short notice, that was true then and it is true now

had that never happened, the game would have likely continued

I am really surprised at the number of emotional responses to that post of mine

one with "my word can't be trusted" because I offered info/an opinion from an incident in the early 60's

one that said it was the "Saturday Evening Post incident" (which, as my link proves, was about the alleged incident I described)



**SIDE NOTE - "the court said differently" is a garbage argument, unless you think that court verdicts are infallible and that innocent people never get convicted or guilty people never get off...
Posted by TideOverride
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

everything I said was true; that incident was an underlying factor in the annual series getting shite canned

and I really do not care whether you think "I can be trusted at my word"

do you have any idea how ridiculous you look with that comment?


Nothing you stated has any basis in truth. Butts didn't give Bryant any inside information on Georgia's plays.

You are a liar and I just wanted the posters viewing this thread not to trust you or place any value in anything you have to say.

All anyone that cares about it has to do is read the article linked and they can get the real information, not your ridiculous twist.

I could say that dcbl rapes dogs on Mondays and Wednesdays but, that doesn't necessarily make it true. Is it true?
Posted by Tau Neutrino
Franklin, Tennessee
Member since Aug 2019
734 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:15 pm to
Those dirty bastards will do ANYTHING to get a little slice of the Tennessee

frick 'em. Chattanooga should continue to give Atlanta the finger.
Posted by TideOverride
Member since Apr 2019
368 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:16 pm to

quote:

you were saying?


The poster was saying that you are a moron and things that you believe in your head aren't necessarily real.

Is that what you meant? Butts didn't retire as head coach of the Bulldogs due to anything having to do with the call, as you falsely claim.
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:34 pm to
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Nothing you stated has any basis in truth
wrong

I have already proven otherwise with links
quote:

You are a liar
bullshite, you are an idiot

quote:

Butts didn't give Bryant any inside information on Georgia's plays
yeah, I don't know if it's true or not, and neither do you

Stating an opinion and screaming that it is fact is a bad look
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:40 pm to
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Butts didn't retire as head coach of the Bulldogs due to anything having to do with the call, as you falsely claim
please show where I claimed that is why Butts retired

And what "call" are you talking about?

A phone call? A bad call in the field?

Butts was forced out at UGA

most UGA folks believe that he was bitter about it and shared our playbook and insight on key players' tendencies with Bama.

That is a fact, whether he did or not? Noone really knows

Calling me a liar or a moron for sharing this story makes you a blithering idiot

Claiming that hard feelings on the UGA side had nothing to do with that annual series ending makes you an even bigger idiot

Lastly, this all happened before even I was born, this is not something I really care all that much about, all I did was relay the story, from the UGA point of view

The fact that this upsets you so much is very telling about who you are as a person and where your priorities lie...
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 5:42 pm
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:45 pm to
Just looked, new member, less than 300 posts

Obvious reading comprehension issues

Cares WAY too much about what may or may not have happened more than 50 years ago

Since I'm a nice guy I'll explain a fact of life to you, there is a big difference between being a liar and having low integrity and having a difference of opinion about an event

You are acting a lot like a Hillary voter...
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 5:51 pm
Posted by TideOverride
Member since Apr 2019
368 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:59 pm to
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Just looked, new member, less than 300 posts

Obvious reading comprehension issues

Cares WAY too much about what may or may not have happened more than 50 years ago

Since I'm a nice guy I'll explain a fact of life to you, there is a big difference between being a liar and having low integrity and having a difference of opinion about an event

You are acting a lot like a Hillary voter...


Dumb frick stated this:

quote:

Series stopped over bad blood based on Wally Butts giving Bear Bryant inside info on our plays and players after he was forced out by the University


I stated that this wasn't true.

Dumb frick, you, now claims that you never said this at all.

Dumb frick, you, links an article from the Sat. Evening Post that was discredited as proof that he is right.

I link an article that obliterates the Saturday Evening Post article. Dumb frick claims all Georgia fans believe that one of your most beloved and successful coaches was a traitor and low down bastard.

Dumb frick says that it happened over 50 years ago so it doesn't really matter anyway, even though Dumb frick is the one that initiated the conversation about it.

Dumb frick melts and replies, in length, three times to the same post. Dumb frick is dumb.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted by dcbl
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:14 pm to
NO, I said that I relayed an old story from the UGA point of view

Whether the claim was true or not I don't and can't know, just like you don't and can't know if it was true or not either

To be fair, I could of and maybe should have said an "alleged" incident

But I did not and am not claiming to know if the accusations were true

Georgia folks say yes, Bama folks say no

calling me a liar over this is really cute

This was not ever meant to be a troll on Bama, just talking old SEC Football stories
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 7:22 pm
Posted by dcbl
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Member since Sep 2013
29784 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:20 pm to
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Dumb frick, you, links an article from the Sat. Evening Post that was discredited as proof that he is right
you really are a moron, the fact that there was a story absolutely proves I was right

The fact that the schools sued the paper proves that they were covering their arse and trying to preserve their reputation

The fact that the post lost the case only proves that they could not prove the story, not that this issue was not a hot button issue

That whole alleged incident is why the UGA vs Bama series was cancelled, just like I said
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 7:29 pm
Posted by TideOverride
Member since Apr 2019
368 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

NO, I said that I relayed an old story from the UGA point of view

Whether the claim was true or not I don't and can't know, just like you don't and can't know if it was true or not either

To be fair, I could of and maybe should have said an "alleged" incident

But I did not and am not claiming to know if the accusations were true

Georgia folks say yes, Bama folks say no

calling me a liar over this is really cute

This was not ever mea t to be a troll on Bama, just talking old SEC Football stories


Dumb frick clearly typed this:

quote:

Series stopped over bad blood based on Wally Butts giving Bear Bryant inside info on our plays and players after he was forced out by the University


Now Dumb frick says he didn't really type that and it's all a misunderstanding and he just has no idea at all if it really happened or not.

Dumb frick is silly.
Posted by dcbl
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Member since Sep 2013
29784 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:22 pm to
And that is why the series was cacelled

100%
Posted by TideOverride
Member since Apr 2019
368 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

And that is why the series was cacelled

100%


The series was never cancelled and you are too stupid to have a conversation with.

Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29784 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:33 pm to
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The series was never cancelled and you are too stupid to have a conversation with.

oh my, the series was not cancelled?

What was the score of the UGA vs Bama game in 1966? They must have played, since the series was not canceled...

You said I said something about a "call"

That means you are a liar, is that how this works?

You went right to questioning my integrity instead of arguing the Bama side of the story

I'm done with you, you have demonstrated that you aren't very bright and that you have low character
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 7:37 pm
Posted by RatRodDawg
UGA & USC alum/Los Angeles, Calif
Member since Nov 2018
2494 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 7:52 pm to
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Rat, you labeled your thread UGA & UT and the few number of games between them. I will expound on that for you since I am an older Gator but also loved SEC football. back in the 1960s the SEC was very forgiving of schedules and teams did their own schedules and it was the wild west.


You are correct, sir. Glad to see there are some posters around here who know what it was like back then and how some things operated. Very different from today. Thanks real_gator8.
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