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re: Can Saban go 10-2 at Bama in 2008?
Posted on 6/11/08 at 10:27 am to xiv
Posted on 6/11/08 at 10:27 am to xiv
quote:I think coaching has to be dividing into 3 areas.
Tiger n Miami AU83 said he'd take Tubby over Saban in a big game anyday (except 12/1/01 apparently).
1. Program Administration- (facilities, acedemic assistance for players, grade management, etc)
2. Recruiting and Development- What quality of player is brought in and how much have they improved as a player in their 4 years
3. Gameday/Game week coaching- Strategy, X's and 0's, and in-game adjustments
I think Saban would get an A+ with #1, a A- in #2, and a C+ in #3. Putting these together make him a good coach, not a 'great' coach, but a very good coach.
ETA: I think if talent is equal, on a neutral field, Tubby beats Saban 8 of 10 times.
This post was edited on 6/11/08 at 10:30 am
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Posted on 6/11/08 at 10:57 am to ehidal1
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ETA: I think if talent is equal, on a neutral field, Tubby beats Saban 8 of 10 times.
That was my point. Also, at LSU and Bama, Saban has a distinct and definitive advantage over Tubbs. Specifically in attracting top talent and recruiting (Bama - state school that historically and even to this day pulls more of the top instate talent and LSU - no other big time in state D1 program).
Put Tubbs and Dinky in the exact same setting and Tubbs consistently wins more games IMO. And I think Tubbs wins 2/3 of the catagories listed (player development and game day coaching). Recruiting, Saban wins but not by a lot (see advantages he has enjoyed above).
Posted on 6/17/08 at 6:59 pm to ehidal1
quote:i am getting really tired of this. tubbs is a really good coach and should (minimum) have a national championship appearance to his name. but 1 SEC title < 2 SEC titles and NC. those are the measuring sticks. tubbs has a GREAT record against top 10 teams-- its actually pretty remarkable, but fact is, hes losing too many games he shouldnt- and probably winning more games than he should too.
I think if talent is equal, on a neutral field, Tubby beats Saban 8 of 10 times.
and lets put this "more with less" argument to rest. lets stop pretending he has UAB's roster. he has SEC caliber talent. he finishes with top 20 classes. he has 85 schollies like the rest. just b/c rivals has awburn rated lower doesnt mean shite. those are fun, subjective ratings for fans to beat their chest about(or in some cases claim national championships) and dont amount to shite.
bottomline: tubbs has SEC talent like everyone else, wins alot of games against top competition, then rolls over the next week against ar-kansas and lower tier schools.
Posted on 6/22/08 at 9:31 am to ehidal1
I think Bama's season will depend a lot on the Clemson game at the GA Dome. Even though it's non-conference and at a neutral site, a win over the ACC favorite would be huge for Saban and the Tide. That being said Clemson's RB duo should have a good game on the fast turf of the dome.
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