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re: Spinoff Thread: AU’s last 12 Composite 5 Star commits

Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:07 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:07 am to
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Everyone wants to put Kirby on a pedestal for playing Saban close, but they love to criticize Gus even when he has beaten Saban twice


-Kirby has had 2 shots at saban, in the 2nd and 3rd years of his head coaching career. And looked like the far better team for 95% of both games.
-Gus has had 6 chances at saban, so of course he has more opportunities for wins
-Gus's first win came on the back of one of the most miraculous plays cfb has ever seen (notice I didn't say lucky).
-His other win came when bama's defense (LB in particular) was extremely beat up and they still didn't know jalen hurts wasn't a good throwing QB yet.
-gus's losses are by an average of 17 PPG. Kirby's are an average of 5 PPG. Based on that, I would conclude that people perceive uga/kirby to be closer overall to bama and on a relatively equal playign field, whereas Gus on the other hand will get a hot team and squeak one out here and there while the other meetings they get pummelled.


This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 11:29 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:16 am to
To provide another example, let's look at UGA and UT versus florida from the 5 year period of 93-97. UF in this case is bama, they had spurrier and were nationally elite without question.

In this time frame, UT went 0-5 vs Florida. Some were blowouts, some were iwthin a few scores, some were within 1 possession. But no wins.

In this same time frame, UGA went 1-4 vs Florida. 3 of the losses were killings. One was close and not decided til the end. And one game we whooped up on em.

Do you think, both regionally and nationally, anyone would say UGA had a more respectable showing against UF in that time than UT?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:21 am to
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And looked like the far better team for 95% of both games.


Eh, I wouldn't go that far
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:37 am to
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-Kirby has had 2 shots at saban, in the 2nd and 3rd years of his head coaching career. And looked like the far better team for 95% of both games.


I think the reason UGA lost was coaching. Kirby shite all over himself in both games.

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-Gus has had 6 chances at saban, so of course he has more opportunities for wins


2 vs 0 wins, .333 winning percent vs .00. Paint it anyway you want.

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-Gus's first win came on the back of one of the most miraculous plays cfb has ever seen (notice I didn't say lucky).


There was a reason Saban tried a 57 yard FG. He knew that his team was toast at that point. It wasn't miraculous or lucky.

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His other win came when bama's defense (LB in particular) was extremely beat up and they still didn't know jalen hurts wasn't a good throwing QB yet.


Alibis and excuses. Bama had 2 drive the entire game. This is the same Hurts that tore UGA a new arse in the SECCG this year.

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gus's losses are by an average of 17 PPG. Kirby's are an average of 5 PPG. Based on that, I would conclude that people perceive uga/kirby to be closer overall to bama and on a relatively equal playign field, whereas Gus on the other hand will get a hot team and squeak one out here and there while the other meetings they get pummelled.



Kirby is still losing at a rate of three games per year. He is doing that while playing in the East.
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