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re: Am I the only one pulling for the Night King?

Posted on 5/22/19 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 3:37 pm to
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So how mad are you going to be when in the books it's still Arya that killa the NK and still Bran that ends up King? Will you be smarter than GRRM then?


I don't think he'll finish the books. He might finish the next one, but the one where these things will have been revealed are, sadly, years and years away.

Similarly, I don't think many people actually have a problem with the who, it's more the how. d&d also tacitly admitted that "they" decided it in one of the 'making of' episodes where they said: "We had decided Arya would kill the Night King three years ago."

"We" obviously wasn't Martin because he had already peaced out from giving the series direction and it was fully d&d's project.

It may very well go the same direction by some stroke of luck/fortune, but if you think it's essentially going to be Arya warp ninja'ing 50 feet and killing the Night King 1 on 1, you might be disappointed.

Just to finish up with the question: Bran being king in the show is ridiculous because he's basically been a giant potato the entire time. Barely talks, almost never expresses himself deeply, doesn't really "want" anything and has very little interaction for years. Again, I think Bran would be very different in the book.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:32 pm to
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I don't think he'll finish the books. He might finish the next one, but the one where these things will have been revealed are, sadly, years and years away.


I honestly think he's probably been finished with WoW for a while now and already started on ADoS, but was waiting to put them out so he could go back and edit some things that lead up to his intended conclusions based on how people reacted to the show.

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Similarly, I don't think many people actually have a problem with the who, it's more the how



I agree to that. Overall I think the conclusions were mostly satisfying, but the way they got to those conclusions were rushed, lazy, and full of holes.

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but if you think it's essentially going to be Arya warp ninja'ing 50 feet and killing the Night King 1 on 1, you might be disappointed.


I really think you're overplaying that way too much. She didn't jump that far, and has already shown her great leaping ability and athleticism in her final fight with The Waif anyway. She's also shown countless times since she started training with the Faceless Men and got back to Westeros her ability to silently sneak up on anybody to seemingly appear out of nowhere, which makes total sense considering she trained with the best assassins in the world.

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Bran being king in the show is ridiculous because he's basically been a giant potato the entire time. Barely talks, almost never expresses himself deeply, doesn't really "want" anything and has very little interaction for years. Again, I think Bran would be very different in the book


It's been a book theory for years, albeit one of the lesser known ones, that Bran becomes the King and it actually makes a lot of sense. "Bran the Fisher King". GRRM said in 2014 that at least one fan had correctly guessed the ending, and people are now pointing out that he made that comment very shortly after a book festival where a fan specifically asked him about the "Bran the Fisher King" theory, so I believe that's what he was referring to. Everybody expected Jon to become King after killing Dany, but this series has never done the expected. Jon becoming King is the fairy tale ending, and this series is anti-fairy tale storylines on purpose.

I can see why people are mad and it's a "wtf" moment in the context of the show only, because of the way they dumbed down Bran's character (especially this season) and because of how poor the lead up to it was in the show bc of the lazy, sloppy writing. But it still makes sense and feels right to me, and the show has always dumbed down characters to a huge degree in comparison to the books, so it's really dumb to continue to compare the show to the books like you keep doing. Just look at Rickon as a prime example, in the show they barely acknowledged his existence most of the time and killed him off in the dumbest way imaginable. In the books he's actually a pretty interesting character who's potentially a freaking Cannibal King on an island full of unicorns, and book readers are excited to see how hus story plays out. But show Rickon was not only boring, but a screen nuisance, and no viewer really even cared at all about the character. So yeah, if you keep comparing show and book like you are then it's no wonder you're so bitter bc you can't see the forest through the trees.
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