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re: Haselwood's comments about our staff
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:52 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:52 pm to FooManChoo
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Semantics. When you criticize the QB for not doing enough to win a game, you are saying he's culpable for the loss and deserving of criticism for that loss. The result is the same.
He played a role in the collapse of both games, but that doesnt mean he is the sole reason or main reason we lost both games.
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Not necessarily. Sometimes an outstanding receiver takes over. Sometimes its a running back. Sometimes it's actually the defense that steps up and wins a game. Other times it's an outstanding special teams play that makes the difference. And yes, sometimes it's the quarterback play. You can't make a blanket statement that when a game is close, it's incumbent on the QB to be that difference maker. Sometimes a QB is doing all he can do but isn't getting help elsewhere.
Since the Qb has the ball more than anyone else, he has more opportunities to make plays than anyone else. Qbs arent going to have perfect protection and wide open WR's all the time. They need to be able to make something out of nothing. Each week Qbs make plays when pressure is applied and no one is open. Thats exactly what we needed from Fromm later in the Bama games and we didnt get them.
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Maybe. Maybe not. If he was quicker on his feet, he might have been tempted to take off and run more, which could have resulted in injury. You never know what can happen, which is why playing the what-if game is rather pointless.
Injuries are always possible, but not probable. Just one Qb first down run, or a scramble and pass first down, as compared to a sack and punt, has potential to be the difference in a close game. That one extended drive can get you those points and/or clock to put the game out of reach or clinch it.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 10:28 am to djsdawg
quote:That's a far cry from the statements about needing someone with quick feet to beat Bama. The focus was on Fromm, even though you now say he wasn't the sole or main reason we lost both games. It goes back to what I and others have said: football is a team sport. We lost as a team and Fromm having faster legs doesn't necessarily mean we win.
He played a role in the collapse of both games, but that doesnt mean he is the sole reason or main reason we lost both games.
quote:Sure. Statistically that is correct, however simply touching the ball more is meaningless if the play doesn't allow for anything to be done with it. WRs that don't catch the ball and OL that don't block well will get a QB massacred, no matter what. If a QB can't rely on his team to execute, they are likely going to lose the game, no matter how good or athletic the QB is. It's still a team sport.
Since the Qb has the ball more than anyone else, he has more opportunities to make plays than anyone else.
quote:Not necessarily. They need to be smart, most of all. That means getting rid of the ball and throwing it away instead of taking a sack, for instance.
Qbs arent going to have perfect protection and wide open WR's all the time. They need to be able to make something out of nothing.
You keep defaulting to a QB needing to always being able to get positive yards, but that's not realistic. Some of the best QBs to play the game were great at not getting negative yards rather than always getting positive yards.
quote:Each week, QBs protect the ball and don't get negative yards or at least don't turn the ball over when the pressure is applied. That's usually more important than a QB always trying to make big plays with their legs.
Each week Qbs make plays when pressure is applied and no one is open.
quote:I asked previously but if you want to point to specific plays where Fromm "making plays" (do you mean running around?) was possible and would have changed the outcome of the game, then please do. All I've seen so far is the SECCG where he should have lowered his shoulder and risked injury to pick up another two yards on a 2nd-down play.
Thats exactly what we needed from Fromm later in the Bama games and we didnt get them.
It's easy to say a player should "make plays" and just be better, but you need to be specific.
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