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Odd factoid from the 1930s
Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:16 am
Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:16 am
While reading up on former Army head football coach "Biff" Jones I saw where the Army assigned him to LSU to be the new LSU head coach in 1932 (Jones was an officer in the Army at the time). He had a good three year run there, winning the conference once and compiling a 20-5-6 record before getting into an argument with Huey Long and resigning from the team.
From there the Army assigned him to Oklahoma to be the head football coach. From what I can gather this wasn't uncommon back then.
Talk about a different era of football. Can you imagine a military branch assigning a head football coach to someplace like Alabama today?
From there the Army assigned him to Oklahoma to be the head football coach. From what I can gather this wasn't uncommon back then.
Talk about a different era of football. Can you imagine a military branch assigning a head football coach to someplace like Alabama today?
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:21 am to Arksulli
Ah, this explains things... back then a lot of coaches were Army officers so Universities would ask the Army to assign those officers to their University to be a football coach. Which I imagine was quite a deal for them in that the Army was picking up the salary.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 10:27 am to Arksulli
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Talk about a different era of football. Can you imagine a military branch assigning a head football coach to someplace like Alabama today?
I don't think this would even happened back in that time. I cannot speak to what kind of a connection the University of Alabama has to the military. But I am 100% sure it doesn't come close to LSU. I think 2 years of ROTC was required of all male student all the way up until 1970. Also, other than West Point no school produced as many officers in World War II than Louisiana State University did.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 11:00 am to Ponchy Tiger
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I cannot speak to what kind of a connection the University of Alabama has to the military. But I am 100% sure it doesn't come close to LSU.
Engage your brain before typing next time genius.
Maybe, you can speak for the connection of UA since you're 100% certain...
Posted on 12/16/18 at 11:20 am to stat19
I believe you might find, that this happened in college Baseball as well...
Posted on 12/16/18 at 11:20 am to stat19
He isn’t wrong. LSU was a big military school back in the day.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:12 pm to Elleshoe
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He isn’t wrong.
Thanks, dude acted like I was insulting Alabama. What a insecure bunch.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:19 pm to Ponchy Tiger
For all of their athletic success, there is no more insecure fan base than Alabama's. They are like puppies that constantly need to be petted.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:19 pm to Elleshoe
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He isn’t wrong. LSU was a big military school back in the day.
It was a military school...back before the War BTS...(but wasn’t when WWII started). But so was Alabama....Yankees burned the University because of that.
But this declaration is pure BS. All colleges, including private and religious, required 2 years of ROTC after WWII until about 1970. And LSU had no more officers than any other college in WWII. It was no more “military” than Florida, Georgia, etc. The guy just made up that shite about “being %100 positive” about something he was not positive about. I don’t know why it is LSU people hold the most fantastic ideas about themselves and their State’s place in history... it isn’t just about their football team...it is a personality disorder, grandiose belief..
My father left Alabama his freshman year went to OCS, was later KIA in Normandy. My mother told me the UA campus just emptied of men after Pearl Harbor.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:21 pm to Elleshoe
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He isn’t wrong. LSU was a big military school back in the day.
The interesting things you learn online. I had no idea LSU was a major military school back then but it makes a lot of sense.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:26 pm to Jacknola
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Yankees burned the University because of that.
You have your wars mixed up I think. I don't recall the "Yankees" burning any college buildings immediately before, during, or after WWII
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My mother told me the UA campus just emptied of men after Pearl Harbor.
That was common across the country. For example George HW Bush entered the military instead of going to college after Pearl Harbor.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:33 pm to Jacknola
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During World War II, LSU was one of the top four schools producing officers for the U.S. Armed Forces. (The other schools were Texas A&M, West Point, and Annapolis). LSU had more than 5,000 former students serving as officers, including 16 who achieved the rank of Brigadier General or higher. In all, 12,000 individuals from LSU served, and over 500 died in this great conflict.
Now say you’re sorry
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:05 pm to Elleshoe
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Elleshoe
Yes it was. I 100% agree with the intent of his post. It’s construction didn’t make sense.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:09 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Thanks, dude acted like I was insulting Alabama. What a insecure bunch.
Yup, especially him.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:16 pm to Arksulli
Not as uncommon as you would think.
Early on Kentucky was an A&M school (all male) and was slow to advance women even into the 70's
Early on Kentucky was an A&M school (all male) and was slow to advance women even into the 70's
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:37 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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I don't think this would even happened back in that time. I cannot speak to what kind of a connection the University of Alabama has to the military. But I am 100% sure it doesn't come close to LSU. I think 2 years of ROTC was required of all male student all the way up until 1970. Also, other than West Point no school produced as many officers in World War II than Louisiana State University did.
Why does LSU claim this? 14,000 Aggies served as officers in WW2.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:18 pm to Jacknola
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And LSU had no more officers than any other college in WWII. It was no more “military” than Florida, Georgia, etc
That’s objectivity false fwiw
Posted on 12/16/18 at 4:08 pm to stat19
Nice read.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 4:20 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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I cannot speak to what kind of a connection the University of Alabama has to the military. But I am 100% sure it doesn't come close to LSU.
You would be wrong. The University of Alabama was once a military college in the same style as West Point. Our football team's original nickname was the Cadets.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 5:18 pm to RollTide1987
An odd fact from the Civil War.... William Tecumseh Sherman was I believe the First Superintendent at LSU and left to take a command in the Union Army when the War began....He certainly gave Georgia and South Carolina something to think about ...
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