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Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:15 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59029 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:15 am to
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I personally don't care where graduations are held. I don't care if it's in a muslim mosque.

Would you care if it's in a mosque?




If the majority of their students are Muslim let them go for it. Do you think majority Muslim schools do not do this? Hint, Muslim schools also teach the Quran and other fundamentalist teachings.

Local and national organizations have urged public schools to make accommodations for Muslim students so that they may practice their faith. These accommodations, already implemented to some degree in many states, help practicing Muslims attending public schools meet very real religious needs.
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This article details how Islam will become the 2nd largest religion in the United States in the next 20 years, at the rate it is currently growing, and how public schools are making accomodations to them so they can go to public schools and still practice their religion. meanwhile, organizations such as the "Freedom from Religion" group are letting this occur while fighting Christianity.

Look at some of the things schools are considering, and the only reason these are under consideration is so Muslims can practice their religious teachings in the schools. So much for Separation of Church and State, huh?

More difficult still is the question of whether the state should construct separate, private showers or provide enclosed toilets.

Religious dietary restrictions have led to requests concerning the labeling and preparation of feed. Meeting these requests may raise First Amendment as well as practical questions for some school officials. Schools, especially those with few Muslim students may resist investing the time and money required to make these accommodations. And it is unlikely that the courts will compel school cafeterias to take into account the religious requirements of all students. Nevertheless, some schools do label food and provide a variety of selections in an effort to accommodate the health, dietary, and in some cases, religious needs of their students.

Muslims engage in formal worship or prayer (salah in Arabic) five times daily. Depending upon seasonal time changes and school schedules, one or two of the worship times (midday and afternoon) may fall during typical school hours, and thus some suitable arrangement should be made for students who wish to fulfill this obligation. Teachers should provide Muslim students who are conscientious about observing their prayers with an unused area for a few minutes during lunchtime or afternoon break for this purpose.

So, it is okay for Muslims to hold prayer at school, but Christians cannot. One teacher was fired for giving a Bible to a student who asked for it.
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The student happened to be the last person entering through a door. Mr. Tutka told the youngster, "The first shall be last, but the last shall be first."

The student later inquired on several occasions about the origins of the quote. He showed the student the verse in his Bible, which led to the student asking for a personal copy of the Bible. And being a good Gideon, Mr. Tutka gladly supplied the child with a copy.
Posted by GlossuRabban
West Cobb
Member since Apr 2018
2570 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:21 am to
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So, it is okay for Muslims to hold prayer at school, but Christians cannot

You are comparing an individual student or students praying vs. official, school led prayer.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21706 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 9:23 am to
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If the majority of their students are Muslim let them go for it.


The WHOLE point of freedom of religion is that is does NOT have to be the majority. That's the whole fricking point. That's why the persecuted protestants left England and came to America. Now, you want the same thing, but since your favorite religion is in power, it's ok.

What the Freedom From Religion Foundation wants is for everyone, no matter their religion, or lack thereof, to be in the same boat - practice what you want, but leave it out of publicly-funded events.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 9:25 am
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:55 pm to
Wow man, what a great and compelling argument. I am impressed.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:15 pm to
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So, it is okay for Muslims to hold prayer at school, but Christians cannot. One teacher was fired for giving a Bible to a student who asked for it.



No student has ever been stopped from praying. Most schools provide a “meditation” time for this specific purpose. It just can’t be led (or isn’t supposed to be) by a school official.
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