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T-bird has been spot on here from his first post. You're the one who decided to come in over the top with ~it's derogatory and white people shouldn't use it at all~... then provided a weird caveat that it's ok to use it privately?

You just stated that it's a racial slur. It has a history of how it was used and people take offense to it. If you know that then don't be surprised that people react to it.

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It's not that difficult... don't be a racist a-hole. Period

Agreed...

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If you're saying things privately and thinking them to yourself, what makes that better than the dude who publicly states the same opinion. I'd argue that it's probably a bit worse... at least the dude who states it publicly lets everyone know where he stands... even if it is wrong. Closet racism would seemingly be much worse... making selective hires based on skin color, "it's ok for white girls to date black men, but not my daughter", etc...

Few things here for me, one is that My point about it being "ok" to say it privately (which to me it isn't, but you can say what you want in private at times without consequence, but what's cool with someone else may not be with me) was more geared towards those who insist that they should be able to say it when and wherever they feel (1st Amendment and all) As I've stated earlier because of the history of it people will take offense to it.

Next you're right the guy who publicly states it lets everyone know where he stands, not to infer but it's probably been said "privately" enough to where he was comfortable enough to say it publicly. Which brings me to another point that lets me know where many others around him stood as well and though many tried to stop him there were some that didn't. Again I applaud the young lady who reported it

I understand context but it goes both ways. But this is why I don't like texting or chatting back and forth. The conversation would probably be a whole lot better and more productive face to face

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Posted by fibonaccisquared

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Posted on 10/4/18 at 2:11 pm to Snoop1911

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There are things that you say in one place that you wouldn't say in others.

You just stated that it's a racial slur. It has a history of how it was used and people take offense to it. If you know that then don't be surprised that people react to it.

None of this addresses what I asked... in fact it only exacerbates the difference. How is it that you think it's equivalent to take a word that does in fact have a history, and people can be rightly offended by its use with profane language that is not pointed at a race, gender, or other specific group, and people making the conscious decision to determine that those words are offensive? They simply aren't equivalent.

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Few things here for me, one is that My point about it being "ok" to say it privately (which to me it isn't) was more geared towards who insist that they should be able to say it when and wherever they feel, and as I've stated earlier because of the history of it people will take offense to it.

Next you're right the guy who publicly states it lets everyone know where he stands, not to infer but it's probably been said "privately" enough to where he was comfortable enough to say it publicly. Which brings me to another point that lets me know where many others around him stood as well and though many tried to stop him there were some that didn't. Again I applaud the young lady who reported it

I understand context but it goes both ways.

Everyone *can* in fact say most anything they want when/where they want with very limited exceptions. It's a granted right. What they are not, is free from consequences of those words. If you want to drop the N-bomb publicly, that's your prerogative... but yes, you shouldn't be surprised when people are offended and you get taken to task for it. Sasser's comments reek of someone who was *waaay* too comfortable with the use and the setting. That's pretty disappointing quite frankly, coming from a UGA fan.

With that said, the "young lady" who reported it, I have a bit of a hard time supporting here. Not for reporting it - as she was right to do so - but rather the supplementary context she has attempted to provide, painting the larger environment at the university as somehow one of toxic racism, where she and fellow minority classmates have to deal with this sort of thing on a continual basis. (So much so that her friend she was walking to the game with went home because of racist remarks...) I spent 4 years in Athens, and in that time probably heard the N word dropped less than 5 times total by anyone not black. I admittedly hung out with pretty diverse crowds, but to even remotely approach hearing the amount of racially charged remarks that she has implied she and friends deal with, you would have to actively seek them out on a daily basis. At that point, I tend to jump back to the old Raylan Givens line from Justified...