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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?

Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:24 pm to
CBS and SEC Network commentators who watched our practices all reported that Fields is a phenomenal passer.

When we played South Carolina Gary Danielson was talking about Kirby's QB options. Danielson said that if Fields is called on and plays much better than Fromm, then Kirby has a problem.

A QB playing bad is a problem. A QB playing well is a benefit. Not everyone sees it that way. I think that Kirby wanted to avoid a QB controversy at all costs and that is why Fields wasn't allowed to develop.

The cost of that type of negative coaching could be great. Fields was the big Georgia draw that resulted in a number 1 draft class. Fields' transfer can't be viewed as a positive. The luster doesn't appear quite as bright as it was before.

Kirby fricked up.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:01 pm to
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Kirby fricked up.



How could Kirby have done anything to change the outcome? In my opinion, Fields didn’t transfer to TOSU, he ran from UGA. I think the kid was lost. He certainly looked that way when he got PT. I don’t think he’ll ever be a sussessful college QB. I think he should look at other positions if he wants to ever be successful.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:22 pm to
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CBS and SEC Network commentators who watched our practices all reported that Fields is a phenomenal passer.
He may be... in practice. I doubt CBS and SEC Network commentators were watching every snap of every practice, though. Consistency is often times more important than raw talent.

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When we played South Carolina Gary Danielson was talking about Kirby's QB options. Danielson said that if Fields is called on and plays much better than Fromm, then Kirby has a problem.
I guess it's a good thing Fields never really showed that he was better than Fromm

I think what Gary meant was that CKS had an experienced and battle-tested QB that helped lead the team to an SEC championship, a Rose Bowl victory over a Heisman winner, and a close OT loss to the best team in college football in the national championship game and that he could be supplanted by a true freshman, leading to Fromm desiring to transfer. That would have been a pickle. Instead Fromm improved all season over his great overall performance as a freshman and it resulted in Fields transferring out as the loser of the competition.

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A QB playing bad is a problem. A QB playing well is a benefit. Not everyone sees it that way.
The same can be said about any player on the field. I don't know what exactly you're saying but it sounds like you're accusing the coaches of purposefully holding back Fields so that Fromm could remain the starter. I hope that isn't what you're saying because that would be idiotic.

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I think that Kirby wanted to avoid a QB controversy at all costs and that is why Fields wasn't allowed to develop.
Ah, so that idiotic thing is what you're saying.

I see it as just the opposite. You make it seem like Fields was held back and not given an opportunity to shine. Hell, it can be argued that we lost the SECCG because Fields was given a chance in a critical moment of the game (the fake punt) when he had no business being out there at all except maybe in a goal line situation.

Fields was given chances all season. He was given snaps during games when the outcome wasn't decided. He was given experience with D1 football. He was given experience with SEC speed. He was in the game when the outcome was still on the line. You don't think that was opportunity for development? What do you say to the redshirts who stand on the sidelines and work with the starters during the season? Are they not developing? Well Fields got a hell of a lot more playing time than those guys in addition to sharing snaps with the #1s in practices. CKS didn't even name Fromm the starter before the first game and you make it sound like what Fields got was just lip service. Incredible.

Fields got to see significant playing time for a guy who was the obvious #2. He got to work with and learn from a true leader and someone who really knows the QB position at a relatively young age in Jake Fromm. That isn't wasted time and that wasn't holding Fields back to "avoid a QB controversy at all costs". If anything, the coaches risked screwing up their starting QB in order to develop Fields.

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The cost of that type of negative coaching could be great. Fields was the big Georgia draw that resulted in a number 1 draft class. Fields' transfer can't be viewed as a positive. The luster doesn't appear quite as bright as it was before.

Kirby fricked up.
I agree with everything you said here. CKS screwed up. He screwed up by trying to placate that spoiled prima donna at the expense of his loyal starting QB who earned what he got and took advantage of the opportunities that he was given.

If there's a black eye on Georgia recruiting right now, it is due to how Fields handled his transfer. I normally wish the best for our players who want to go elsewhere, but in Fields' case, I hope he gets an extra dose of the real world and has to sit out an learn to be a team player. I hope he grows up fast and becomes a better person from his experiences here.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 7:44 pm
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