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re: Why Drew Lock will win the Heisman in 2018

Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:04 am to
Posted by ZOU
STL
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Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:04 am to
I understand why many on this site point to his below average stats against ranked opponents. I get it. He hasn’t been good against most ranked opponents he’s played against.

But then people forget that Mizzou recruits like garbage and has Barry Odom as head coach. Kid is throwing to 3 star WRs that only got offered by Rutgers and his defense is littered with fringe 3 stars who wouldn’t make the squad at Baylor. Joking aside, his supporting cast on both sides of the ball is trash yet he’s shown he’s an elite player.

He’s a great talent that many trash without taking into consideration the players he’s working with.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 1:07 am
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
15025 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:06 am to
Sounds like excuses, boo
Posted by Sean Bean
USA
Member since May 2018
490 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 1:15 am to
quote:

He hasn’t been good against most ranked opponents he’s played against.


If we look at the same stats from the OP but extrapolate SEC stats ONLY... here is what we get:

**all stats are since 2010 and in SEC play**

Pass TDs in SEC play in 2017: 25 (most by any SEC QB since '10)
Completions of 20+ yds in SEC play in 2017: 35 (6th best since '10)
TD Rate: 9.9% of pass attempts went for a TD (best in SEC since '10)
Sack Rate: 2.7% (5th best among SEC schools since '10)

I know its not ranked opponents, but still solid right?
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 1:17 am
Posted by BlackTiger89
Member since Sep 2016
799 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:29 pm to
I think u need a winning record to qualify!! Lmaooo mi(who)ri?????????????
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37733 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:11 am to
Lock is a big time talent and will be, perhaps, the best QB in the league this year ... but on an average team.

He's got the quickest release and sweetest throwing motion I've seen in years. Throws an incredibly catchable ball and he's above average accurate.

But he's not going to get enough help from his surrounding players to win The Heisman.

He may well be a high first rounder though ... and that's all that really matters.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15020 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:04 am to
quote:

I understand why many on this site point to his below average stats against ranked opponents. I get it. He hasn’t been good against most ranked opponents he’s played against.

But then people forget that Mizzou recruits like garbage and has Barry Odom as head coach. Kid is throwing to 3 star WRs that only got offered by Rutgers and his defense is littered with fringe 3 stars who wouldn’t make the squad at Baylor. Joking aside, his supporting cast on both sides of the ball is trash yet he’s shown he’s an elite player.

He’s a great talent that many trash without taking into consideration the players he’s working with.


I never really like Josh Heupel's air raid offense to a point. Why did OU fired him as their OC there? He was not that good. Point is he could not get the offense going against good teams that have great defense. Misouri is not going to ignor the air raid offense completely. The new OC will try to make sure the defense is not going to be able to stop Missouri to keep moving the ball on every series Missouri gets on the offense. THat is the difference maker between Heupel's offense and Dooley's offense. I have high expectation that Missouri will play better on offense this year against better defensive teams. Also the defense did hurt Missouri earlier of the season that messed up everything. Took time to make adjustments. This time around should be a lot better. Barry Odom have learned and have made adjustments from year one to year two. Now in year three should see a much improved offense that will be better against good teams that have good defense. I have seen the improvements. That is one way you can judge a head coach for the next year. Also based on returning key players for this year.
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