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re: Blind comparison of Jalens stats against some other recent SEC QB's
Posted on 8/8/18 at 2:27 pm to RolltidePA
Posted on 8/8/18 at 2:27 pm to RolltidePA
The biggest issue with Jalen is that against the best teams on our schedule he has never proven to be able to effectively move the football, especially when forced to through the air. Total stats don't really do much but muddle the arguments, because we are able to overwhelm 75% of our schedule.
Prime Example (of those 3, not including Newton, plus Fitzgerald)
Jalen Hurts vs AP Ranked Opponents (11 games)
126/227 (55.5%)
11 TD/4 INT
137 YPG
6.7 YPA
Jordan Jefferson vs AP Ranked Opponents (15 games)
172/298 (57.7%)
12 TD/8 INT
128 YPG
6.4 YPA
Nick Fitzgerald vs AP Ranked Opponents (7 games)
94/200 (47.0%)
5 TD/6 INT
146 YPG
5.1 YPA
Nick Marshall vs AP Ranked Opponents (11 games)
164/286 (57.3%)
18 TD/9 INT
217 YPG
8.3 YPA
Marshall made a few more mistakes but was way, way more explosive and able to make plays through the air. Jalen is better than Jefferson was, but he was also in a better situation on offense to succeed. He and Jefferson are pretty damn similar.
Prime Example (of those 3, not including Newton, plus Fitzgerald)
Jalen Hurts vs AP Ranked Opponents (11 games)
126/227 (55.5%)
11 TD/4 INT
137 YPG
6.7 YPA
Jordan Jefferson vs AP Ranked Opponents (15 games)
172/298 (57.7%)
12 TD/8 INT
128 YPG
6.4 YPA
Nick Fitzgerald vs AP Ranked Opponents (7 games)
94/200 (47.0%)
5 TD/6 INT
146 YPG
5.1 YPA
Nick Marshall vs AP Ranked Opponents (11 games)
164/286 (57.3%)
18 TD/9 INT
217 YPG
8.3 YPA
Marshall made a few more mistakes but was way, way more explosive and able to make plays through the air. Jalen is better than Jefferson was, but he was also in a better situation on offense to succeed. He and Jefferson are pretty damn similar.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 2:32 pm
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 3:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Jalen really has been at his worst, when it counted the most. Your stats are a painful example of that.
I agree with everything you said expect this part.
--Total stats don't really do much but muddle the arguments, because we are able to overwhelm 75% of our schedule. --
Each one of the QB's played on elite teams and in a championship game; so the team aspect was a fair comparison, each one of those teams could roll 75% of their schedule. That's just my opinion and really is just splitting hairs, but hey, this is a message board and that's just what we do.
I was truly trying to be objective and let the numbers tell the story. It was eye opening when the numbers started netting out that Jalen and Jordan Jefferson were so damn similar. Overall it did leave me with the perspective that it is 100% fair to say that Jalen is being overvalued because of the win-loss record and that the overall team is more important to his success than vice versa.
I agree with everything you said expect this part.
--Total stats don't really do much but muddle the arguments, because we are able to overwhelm 75% of our schedule. --
Each one of the QB's played on elite teams and in a championship game; so the team aspect was a fair comparison, each one of those teams could roll 75% of their schedule. That's just my opinion and really is just splitting hairs, but hey, this is a message board and that's just what we do.
I was truly trying to be objective and let the numbers tell the story. It was eye opening when the numbers started netting out that Jalen and Jordan Jefferson were so damn similar. Overall it did leave me with the perspective that it is 100% fair to say that Jalen is being overvalued because of the win-loss record and that the overall team is more important to his success than vice versa.
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