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re: Tim Tebow is such a good person

Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:49 am to
And I will add this. As a scientist and a christian, I have a strong belief that God reveals scientific discoveries as human kind is ready for them. Primitive cultures did not have the basic scientific understanding to comprehend DNA or astrophysics. These things were not revealed to us until we were ready.

Many, many moons ago, when I was in grad school the evolution class, as part of their curriculum, was required to stage a series of debates on the great topics of evolution. One of these, predictably, was creationism vs evolution. The debates where held weekly in-front of the entire biology department and all in attendance got to vote on the "winners" at the end of the debate. Now given the venue and audience you might be surprised when I tell you that creationism won every one of these debates while I was there.

Now I tell that story because one of the best arguments to bridge the gap between religion and science I've ever heard was made during one of those debates. Lets, for a moment, get away from the literal translation in Genesis and assume that the story of the universe and human evolution is not that in the Bible but the one that science has presented. Does that make it any less miraculous? No it doesn't.

It is a well documented scientific fact that we cannot see beyond a certain time in the universes creation and we do not know what existed before the creation of the universe. We also do not know the mechanism for creation of life itself. It is an interesting coincidence that all of these can be read in congruence with a universe created by god as described in Genesis. Maybe not a verbatim translation of the JK version, but hey, the whole text has been translated numerous times from various languages so we're splitting hairs there anyway.

And furthermore, for all sciences bluster, it sill cannot prove that god DOESN'T exist. They can prove what they can see and observe in the universe and world, but none of it DISPROVES the existence of God. People can choose to believe or not. God is ok with this. It's why he gave us free will. He loves all of us, and wants the best for us, but he wants us to come to him on our own.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 11:53 am
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21702 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 12:21 pm to
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And furthermore, for all sciences bluster, it sill cannot prove that god DOESN'T exist.


I don't claim that science can disprove god. It also can't disprove invisible unicorns that pull every motor vehicle. But, if I make that unicorn claim, I'm going to have to come up with some tangible evidence.
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