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re: Who's Georgia's biggest rival?

Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:41 pm to
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I am not arguing the legitimacy of their claims.

You just said that anybody who did not recognize the 1983 team as champions are stupid.

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Those teams based on what happened on the field were selected champions. You may give more weight to the AP poll or the UPI, but that doesn't make them more valuable.

They were not chosen by what the football establishment consider the official polls...the final say. The AP and the UPI were the only polls that people gave any weight at all to for many, many years. Either you are being obtuse, or you are too young to remember.

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Ironically, in a classic shell game we still don't crown a champ based completely on the performance on the field.
I'm pretty sure that the playoff game settled it on the field.
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If UCF claims this year...not sure if anyone actually selected them. They'd have a right to it.
Ok. As soon as you said this, it is obvious there is no use discussing it any further. If you think UCF had any kind of claim to being the best team in the country then there is simply no reasoning with you.
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The years we were selected champions we actually did everything on the field we could do to become champion and rightfully so we were selected by someone champion.

Well they were not selected by any publication or organization that was the consensus to pick a National Champion. In your world if Women's Day Magazine selected Auburn national Champions for 2017, then somebody selected them so they can claim it. Hold on, and I will see if i can find somebody somewhere that named Georgia national Champions in a few more years, because...you know...if somebody named them then they must be Champions.

I guess Butch was right. Tennessee players were Champions of Life, because he said so.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36726 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:45 pm to
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You just said that anybody who did not recognize the 1983 team as champions are stupid.

TIFWIW and IMHO, that was just a polite way of calling you stupid. Hope this helps.
Keep it on the fairway for me!
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:45 pm to
Oh, look! Two groups named Alabama the National Champions for 2016! I guess they can claim it!

2016 National Champions-Alabama CM, CCR
ETA
You might want to take a look at 1983. You might be royally ticked off!
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:47 pm to
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You just said that anybody who did not recognize the 1983 team as champions are stupid.



Please link to where I claimed someone would be stupid.

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They were not chosen by what the football establishment consider the official polls...the final say. The AP and the UPI were the only polls that people gave any weight at all to for many, many years. Either you are being obtuse, or you are too young to remember.


Football establishment...that makes me laugh.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:51 pm to
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I'm pretty sure that the playoff game settled it on the field.



So long as the teams invitation to the playoff is subjective we will never have a true champion. Just the selected champions.

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Ok. As soon as you said this, it is obvious there is no use discussing it any further. If you think UCF had any kind of claim to being the best team in the country then there is simply no reasoning with you.


I actually said. I do not believe they were selected. That implies I don't believe they should claim the championship.

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Well they were not selected by any publication or organization that was the consensus to pick a National Champion. In your world if Women's Day Magazine selected Auburn national Champions for 2017, then somebody selected them so they can claim it. Hold on, and I will see if i can find somebody somewhere that named Georgia national Champions in a few more years, because...you know...if somebody named them then they must be Champions.


There is no publication or organization that was consensus to pick a National Champion until the BCS...that is factual. The NCAA history books make that clear. The problem you'll have with looking for someone to claim uga 2017 champs is similar to Auburn's 2004 claim...the season began with certain rules by those rules you lost and awarded bama the claim. It isn't as if you were a Power 5 team that went undefeated won its bowl game and didn't get to play in the playoffs. That team if they ever exists will have a claim "if" someone selects them champion.
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