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re: SEC Standings Since 1933
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:47 pm to Doc Fenton
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:47 pm to Doc Fenton
I've posted my own accounting of all-time records elsewhere, but there are several screwy things that affects this stuff, which is why it's so hard to see consistent reporting of it online.
You can have stuff like Sewanee's 1940 game against Vanderbilt, which the SEC office apparently counts as a conference game, even though Sewanee has clearly already moved to being an independent that season. But then, as another poster was saying, there may have been some grandfather clauses to allow remaining teams to count their contractually agreed to games as conference games, even though the other team had already left the conference.
Then there are the rare SEC-vs-SEC bowl matchups, which I count as having occurred 10 times in history between the 1952 and 2011 seasons. Then there are the 26 SECCG.
EDIT: There's also weird stuff like Kentucky claiming a co-share of the 1976 SEC title (with UGA) retroactively in 1978, after the SEC office made MSU forfeit a 1976 conference win over UK in Jackson.
You can have stuff like Sewanee's 1940 game against Vanderbilt, which the SEC office apparently counts as a conference game, even though Sewanee has clearly already moved to being an independent that season. But then, as another poster was saying, there may have been some grandfather clauses to allow remaining teams to count their contractually agreed to games as conference games, even though the other team had already left the conference.
Then there are the rare SEC-vs-SEC bowl matchups, which I count as having occurred 10 times in history between the 1952 and 2011 seasons. Then there are the 26 SECCG.
EDIT: There's also weird stuff like Kentucky claiming a co-share of the 1976 SEC title (with UGA) retroactively in 1978, after the SEC office made MSU forfeit a 1976 conference win over UK in Jackson.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 8:51 pm
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:52 pm to Doc Fenton
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Then there are the rare SEC-vs-SEC bowl matchups, which I count as having occurred 10 times in history between 1952 and 2011. Then there are the 26 SECCG.
EDIT: There's also weird stuff like Kentucky claiming a co-share of the 1976 SEC title (with UGA) retroactively in 1978, after the SEC office made MSU forfeit a 1976 conference win over UK in Jackson.
plus; doesn't AL have a bunch of years when they played an extra game that did not count as a conference game?
I want to say there were a few years when games against straight up OOC opponents counted as conference games (maybe even a few Auburn vs Clemson or UNC games?) to compensate for losing the GA Tech game?
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:52 pm to Doc Fenton
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I've posted my own accounting of all-time records elsewhere, but there are several screwy things that affects this stuff, which is why it's so hard to see consistent reporting of it online.
You can have stuff like Sewanee's 1940 game against Vanderbilt, which the SEC office apparently counts as a conference game, even though Sewanee has clearly already moved to being an independent that season. But then, as another poster was saying, there may have been some grandfather clauses to allow remaining teams to count their contractually agreed to games as conference games, even though the other team had already left the conference.
Then there are the rare SEC-vs-SEC bowl matchups, which I count as having occurred 10 times in history between the 1952 and 2011 seasons. Then there are the 26 SECCG.
EDIT: There's also weird stuff like Kentucky claiming a co-share of the 1976 SEC title (with UGA) retroactively in 1978, after the SEC office made MSU forfeit a 1976 conference win over UK in Jackson.
SEC teams were allowed to schedule OOC teams as SEC games back then. For example, Georgia only played 5 SEC teams in 1966 but had 6 conference games (usually North or South Carolina) and shared the SEC title with Bama.
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