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re: Auburn could have hired Kirby after the 2012 season.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:41 am to Commander Data
Posted on 12/21/17 at 4:41 am to Commander Data
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Not saying that Kirby is better than Gus but it does look that way. Kirby interviewed at auburn because Pat Dye recommended him for the job. Glad you guys hired Gus honestly. What do you think and what did you think at the time?
Let's slow our roll before we consider Kirby the 2nd coming of Sabear. Sabear would never lose to AU 40-17 -- he wouldn't lose to ANYONE by that margin.
Kirby is going to have to show he can be as consistent as Saban in winning every game he should and when losing, losing only in tight games.
That said, I wanted Gus more at the time because I felt a defensive head coach would just lead us back to the Tubershell days of mediocre offense. I wouldn't have cried if Kirby were hired, but I think everything worked out for the best for him and everyone else.
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Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:06 pm to AUstar
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Let's slow our roll before we consider Kirby the 2nd coming of Sabear. Sabear would never lose to AU 40-17 -- he wouldn't lose to ANYONE by that margi
First of all, nobody on earth (*gasp* uga fans included) think kirby is the next saban. Nobody is the next saban, saban has his own tier and then everyone else. So let's get that right off the bat.
Second, yall act like saban just started coaching when he got to tuscaloosa. Kirby is in his 2nd year year EVER as a head coach. Saban had plenty of 30 and 40 point beatdowns early in his tenure while at michigan state. It's almost like...people learn and get better as they get more experience.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 12:39 pm to AUstar
Expectations for Kirby should be higher than those for Gus. Right now they've performed about evenly early on.
I think Kirby should surpass Gus in the near term because he'll probably be able to string together 9-11 win seasons more frequently than Gus has to date (assuming UGA doesn't win the playoff, which would put him above Gus for that reason). Hopefully Gus will have better performing teams in that same span, but his recent mediocrity hurts him.
I'm not at all convinced Kirby will ultimately be the better coach, but I do think he's in a better position to bump his resume above that of Gus for the near future. Of course, if Gus can put together more 10-11 win years he may be able to keep up even in the near term.
In short, I think Kirby will be able to pull off better year to year W-L results than Gus, but I won't be surprised if Gus matches or exceeds Kirby in truly elite seasons when everything is done. In other words, a continuation of the UGA-Auburn situation in pre-Smart times. Hopefully UGA isn't about to go on some dynasty run and prove this all inaccurate.
I think Kirby should surpass Gus in the near term because he'll probably be able to string together 9-11 win seasons more frequently than Gus has to date (assuming UGA doesn't win the playoff, which would put him above Gus for that reason). Hopefully Gus will have better performing teams in that same span, but his recent mediocrity hurts him.
I'm not at all convinced Kirby will ultimately be the better coach, but I do think he's in a better position to bump his resume above that of Gus for the near future. Of course, if Gus can put together more 10-11 win years he may be able to keep up even in the near term.
In short, I think Kirby will be able to pull off better year to year W-L results than Gus, but I won't be surprised if Gus matches or exceeds Kirby in truly elite seasons when everything is done. In other words, a continuation of the UGA-Auburn situation in pre-Smart times. Hopefully UGA isn't about to go on some dynasty run and prove this all inaccurate.
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