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Posted on 10/26/17 at 5:54 am
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 5:54 am
Below are the top 25 toughest 2017 college football schedules as ranked by the ESPN FPI, followed by 26 through 130

4. Florida


Just a piece of info for digestion
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:44 am to
You make it tougher on yourself than the strength of schedule when you have 9 guys make a selfish decision prior to the season, you lose another 12 to injury, you change quarterbacks cause your young guy isn't ready and the coaches can't simplify things for him enough, the quarterback that understands the system has glass bones and paper skin and gets hurt if you breath on him the wrong way, your young quarterback tends to miss streaking receivers because his "read" is always somewhere else, your coach has a two week battle with depression after a hurricane, then once he gets back to seemingly normal there's the distraction he created by saying they've received death threats.

And yet, despite all the problems and distractions, there's still no reason we shouldn't have beaten LSU and Texas A&M. Despite all the missing players and all the problems, we were the better team in both games, and therein is where our problems lie.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 8:35 am to
Sagarin has us at #28
Team rankings at #40
ESPN remaining SOS #42
Previous weeks
Week 1:#20
Week 2:#17
Week 3:#39
Week 4:#56
Week 5:#49
Week 6:#47
Week 7:#49
Week 8:#42

Congrats on posting a preseason SOS. It means nothing. It's funny how wrong that is when the games are played. I give you an A for effort. Just some info for digestion. 3-3 with an avg SOS. Yikes. That just shows how bad at coaching this staff is.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 8:41 am
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 8:38 am to
Just like without a holding call and two uncovered TDs we lose to UK or 3 MISSED FGs we lose to IT. For as close as you think we're to 5-1 we're just as equally close to 1-5.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 8:56 am to
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Congrats on posting a preseason SOS. It means nothing. It's funny how wrong that is when the games are played. I give you an A for effort. Just some info for digestion. 3-3 with an avg SOS. Yikes. That just shows how bad at coaching this staff is.


Was going to reply myself, but figured it would be better coming from a Gator.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 9:46 am to
Such a stupid argument.

If not for a missed extra point we beat LSU. If not for us forgetting to cover a punt against A&M we beat them.

We forgot to cover Kentucky's tight end on one of their touchdowns. Is that them taking advantage of our frick up or is that something they should apologize for? I don't get it.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Such a stupid argument.



Most teams can make those kinds of arguments. UGA was a hair away from losing 8 games last year and a hair away from winning 11.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:52 pm to
That's why it's a stupid argument
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:57 pm to
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If not for a missed extra point we beat LSU.

Not quite how that works...
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

That's why it's a stupid argument



But... you more or less *started* it down that track, no?

quote:

And yet, despite all the problems and distractions, there's still no reason we shouldn't have beaten LSU and Texas A&M. Despite all the missing players and all the problems, we were the better team in both games, and therein is where our problems lie.

I mean, you didn't point to specific plays, but you teed up the conversation around woulda, coulda, shouda...
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39446 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:02 pm to
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If not for a missed extra point we beat LSU.

eh, that's quite the assumption. a game is 60 minutes long. we had plenty of time all game to seal the game, and we didn't. plain and simple.

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If not for us forgetting to cover a punt against A&M we beat them.

see response above.

to blame the outcome of a game on one specific play is just dumb. football players need to understand that they need to do their job 100% of the time if they want to stand the chance of winning. you can't just blow a coverage every so often, and expect to win the game. and we blowed alot in the last 2 games. we missed out on a lot other than just the placement of a PAT or a direct punt to the return man.

just after those specific games, you all were blaming franks for missing WRs that were wide open. so which is it, did we lose because of those missed plays, or did we lose because of the miss PAT and big punt return?

imo, we lost from a combination of both mistakes plus alot more.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:24 pm to
To you Finch and Fibonacci,

I wasn't making this argument as my own. I was writing it as a response to show his argument was stupid. I was frustrated that we lost games against teams we shouldn't have lost to, but I didn't point specifically to those plays in my original post. I was writing it to show TJ that his argument was pretty ridiculous
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
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16898 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 1:47 pm to
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I wasn't making this argument as my own. I was writing it as a response to show his argument was stupid

Read what I quoted. It was the second comment in this thread, and it was not in response to anyone else.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:01 pm to
Led the whole game vs Texas A&M and dominated the second half vs LSU. I'm not using that as credit to the team or the coaches, just as part of my frustration with the results of the games. Not sure what your point is here
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:31 pm to
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Not sure what your point is here

You started the woulda coulda shoulda conversation... the discussion continued from there. If you felt like his argument was stupid, then generally speaking your comment was as well... that's all. I don't personally care, just can't have your cake and eat it to on that one.

ETA: Not to say he wouldn't have (or hasn't) made the same comment in another thread, but his point on 1-5 vs 5-1 was directly in response to what I quoted. He was pointing out the flaw in *your* argument, not vice versa.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:34 pm to
To me there's a difference in the general "damn we were the better team we should've beaten them" and "if not for this this and that then we'd be 1-5" or "this this and that and we'd be 5-1"
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

damn we were the better team we should've beaten them

and
quote:

this this and that and we'd be 5-1

Are more or less the same... As I said before, you didn't point out specific plays, but you either *believe* there were specific plays that contributed to you guys not winning the game (which you pointed out in a subsequent post) or this is some esoteric "we're the better team because reasons" sort of logic... neither of which are good arguments.

It's no different than UGA fans saying: "We were the better team in our games against Vanderbilt, Ga Tech, and Tennessee last year... we shoulda beaten them"... it was abundantly pointed out to us after last season that we were just as close to a losing season as we were to 10-11 wins... I don't need to list off the plays that led to the losses to be making the same argument.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 2:47 pm to
Crazy plays happen in every game. Most teams hover around .500 in close, one possession games. If every game is close, you will hover around .500 and many games will be decided by one play or one series. True in all sports but especially so in CFB. Big programs counteract it and win consistently by recruiting well and generating a talent gap such that games aren't as frequently close.

In my opinion, the type of season Florida is having and the type Georgia had last year are indicators of roster depletion which is always a combination of poor eval, poor recruiting, and mid season attrition via injury and suspension.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:08 pm to
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NCDawg52


So if we beat the leghumpers Saturday...what does that say about UGA? Just curious.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

So if we beat the leghumpers Saturday...what does that say about UGA?


It isn't happening.

But to play hypothetical, it would say that we regroup and head to Atlanta with 1 loss while you guys continue to argue about your coach and his fake death threats and wait to see how many of your players end up in jail.
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