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re: "Never say never" - The Dabo Speaks
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:12 pm to TideWarrior
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:12 pm to TideWarrior
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Let me see:
Be considered the greatest coach ever at Clemson
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Be mentioned as one of the greatest at Alabama along side names like the Bear and Saban.
I think I would go with the latter. No matter what he does at Clemson it will never compare nationally to what one could do at a traditional powerhouse like Alabama, Notre Dame, USC, etc. Just saying
The Bear won 6 national titles at Bama. Saban has won 4 there and played for a fifth last year. Saban has lost more than one regular season game at Bama since 2008, only once. Bama would have been in the playoff every season since 2008, except 2010.
Dabo would have to win a minimum of 3 national titles and more than likely four or 5 to be considered anywhere near as great as Saban or the Bear.
That's a frickton of pressure and expectations
It's not about who has more tradition or prestige, obviously Bama has many more things going on than Clemson. It's about expectations and tradition.
At Bama, it's usually SEC championship or bust and you have to play the West every year, at Clemson, he has low expectations and low pressure because he has built the program up himself. He also knows that he has about 9 wins for sure every year there.
It's not that I wouldn't like him to replace Saban, though he reminds me a lot of Les Miles in his quirkyness. Though a much better coach than Miles. It's just that he has it made where he is and has a lot more to lose at Bama, than he does at Clemson.
It's just a pragmatic viewpoint, all the things that Bama fans think of as reasons why he'd come here, are actually reasons that would make the pressure and expectations much higher for him at Bama than at Clemson.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 8:18 pm
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:36 pm to Othello
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The Bear won 6 national titles at Bama. Saban has won 4 there and played for a fifth last year. Saban has lost more than one regular season game at Bama since 2008, only once. Bama would have been in the playoff every season since 2008, except 2010.
Dabo is only 47 and appears to be on the verge of making the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row. At Clemson.
Bear didn't win a title at Maryland, Kentucky or A&M.
Saban won one title at a Top 10 program in LSU.
They found exponentially more success coaching at Alabama. Given Dabo's recent run I'd say he stands more likely to follow that pattern than fail to meet expectations.
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Dabo would have to win a minimum of 3 national titles and more than likely four or 5 to be considered anywhere near as great as Saban or the Bear.
If he got the job 7 years from now he'd still be younger than Saban was when he took the Alabama job and he probably wouldn't have to resurrect the program from a probation ravaged decade.
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That's a frickton of pressure and expectations
It's not about who has more tradition or prestige, obviously Bama has many more things going on than Clemson. It's about expectations and tradition.
If he maintains his current pace the expectations would be just as high at Clemson.
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At Bama, it's usually SEC championship or bust and you have to play the West every year, at Clemson, he has low expectations and low pressure because he has built the program up himself. He also knows that he has about 9 wins for sure every year there.
See my post above regarding expectations.
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It's not that I wouldn't like him to replace Saban, though he reminds me a lot of Les Miles in his quirkyness. Though a much better coach than Miles. It's just that he has it made where he is and has a lot more to lose at Bama, than he does at Clemson.
His coaching style seems to work just fine. He absolutely obliterated Urban Meyer last year and bitch slapped Bob Stoops in the playoffs two years ago.
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It's just a pragmatic viewpoint, all the things that Bama fans think of as reasons why he'd come here, are actually reasons that would make the pressure and expectations much higher for him at Bama than at Clemson.
Alabama won zero titles for 17 straight years before 2009. I think we could survive playing for one every other year.
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:39 pm to Othello
I hope you're a Clemson fan after that diatribe.
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