re: 2018 Recruiting Thread: Sprint to NSD.

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Straw... you are literally unable to give Smart credit for anything.

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bullshite. See below.

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He's recruiting has been top notch since he arrived.

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He has, but that's not new to Georgia. He's not doing anything much differently. If recruiting a few slots above the average 8th recruiting class that they've enjoyed for five years before he came, forgive me for not being astounded.

Good/Great recruiting at Georgia didn't show up out of no where.

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It's taken McElwain a couple of tries to get his bearings, and we all know it. Things SEEM better now, looking at the 2018 and 2019 classes and how they are progressing.

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Don't you think leaving the entire football program in shambles by Muschamp had a lot to do with recruiting?

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You can't just be absolved of responsibility because the scenario you come into is less than ideal. You do the best with what you have. Mac did a good job salvaging what he could in 2015. Kirby did a good job keeping a strong 2016 class together and even adding to it.

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...Yes, yes you can. ''Less than ideal'' isn't where we were. The roster was fricked, we were near the last in offense for five years when McElwain stepped on campus. It's not like these problems weren't here when he came.

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You can't just be absolved of responsibility because the scenario you come into is less than ideal. You do the best with what you have. Mac did a good job salvaging what he could in 2015. Kirby did a good job keeping a strong 2016 class together and even adding to it.

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Color me shocked that a coach at Georgia managed to recruit well. It's amazing. Spectacular.

Kind of average, since that's been a staple of Georgia football for half a decade.

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They both deserve praise for that, and yes, if some of those players don't work out, they deserve some of the responsibility too, because they are the current head coaches and those are their players and it's their job to develop them.

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Some is acceptable -- but what you're asking is for me to say: Kirby winning with 17 starters that he didn't scout, recruit or get commitments from is the sign of great coaching.

Running 80% of time with two players that he didn't do that with -- genius.

I mean, Kirby may very well be a good coach but it would be outlandishly difficult to not be successful at Georgia with a well-managed roster. Outside of OL (and ours was far, far worse than Georgia's when McElwain came. Many of them will say no, but it's not even debatable. Their C had more starts and games under his belt than our entire line combined) their team had very few real deficiencies. In fact, they were better recruited and managed at every offensive position.

This conversation is pretty much over, and I don't know why we have to go 'round and 'round. Kirby is making a program that was decent look good.

McElwain is taking a once-was garbage program and winning 10 games with it, and now a team that was basically gutted before it started and at least managing to make us look serviceable. That we outgained Alabama and held A&M to less yards with essentially a skeleton-crew is disregarded here, there's no praise to be heard of just because we couldn't get our green quarterback to march it down the field without his top three wide receivers.