re: 2018 Recruiting Thread: Sprint to NSD.

To the both of you: Their classes would have looked/been different had they actually been on campus the entire year.

McElwain was in mop up duty, trying to get whoever he could and the class was awash.

Is it HIS fault that it was awash because the man before him didn't recruit more than 6 players and he was left scurrying to get whatever he could? Of course not. It's Muschamp's fault that the class was wrecked, he lost the games, he failed to manage the roster, he was fired.

I've always maintained: Kirby should get neither praise nor guilt over that class. He didn't recruit Eason (for instance), and it's not his fault that Fromm is playing better than Eason. It's not his great capacity as a coach that Eason is playing better, either, though. That's just how the cookie crumbles sometimes -- guys have different minds for the position.

It's a lot more nuanced than you want to look into it, TJ, which is why it's hard to actually debate you. Everything is black and white, you only use numbers when they're on your side. Yards gained per game is more important than wins, if it's wins, they have to be the right wins -- the wins that you deem important. LSU (last year), Georgia (last year and the year before), Ole Miss, Iowa and Tennessee his first year were pretty decent wins for what was left. For you, it's not. Simply isn't. You always say ''no notable wins'' when clearly there are quite a few, a good step up from what we had before. How many notable wins did Muschamp have in his last two years before getting the boot?

tl;dr: You can't be responsible for something you only took part in 1/12th or even 1/6th of the time.