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re: Heroes, Red Arrows, 'n Gimps. . .

Posted on 1/29/17 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 6:47 pm to
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Que? Mandela was an unrepentant terrorist (would have been freed many years earlier had he simply renounced violence - but didn't), and Guevara was simply a murderer. If merely furthering a cause is sufficient, your list is very short on 20th Century totalitarians.


One man's, or people's, terrorist is another's hero. To the British, George Washington was a traitor and a terrrorist. Many Northerners thought R.E. Lee was a terrorist. Southerners weren't too fond of Sherman. To the people in South Arfica who were suffering under Apartheid, and the impoverished and oppressed people of Latin America, Mandela and Guevara were great heroes.
This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31968 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 7:26 pm to
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One man's, or people's, terrorist is another's hero

Please give us your or their definition of the word "terrorist" then..

I really want to see the dishonest pathetic lengths someone would have to go through to label Washington or Lee as "terrorists". Or how they could say that sherman, guevera, or lincoln weren't.

This level of stupidity is scary, to be honest.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14276 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 7:50 pm to
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Guevara were great heroes


He was a Marxist dictator and murderer. If you didn't adore him in Cuba you were killed....or he'd kill you himself if he thought you weren't loyal.

I guess Hitler is your hero as well because the German people loved him so much and he was a "revolutionary"?
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 8:42 pm to
Given that Guevara spent most of his time oppressing the ever-living-frick out of Africans and South Americans, his hero status amongst them is rather limited.

As far as Mandela, he's not overly well thought of by those outside of his tribe.
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