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re: New Baylor lawsuit cites 52 rapes by football players in 4 years
Posted on 2/3/17 at 8:29 am to TigerPaw1
Posted on 2/3/17 at 8:29 am to TigerPaw1
None of this really changes my stance on anything here:
If you don't think stupid kid shite like this gets swept up every day by every one you are fooling yourself. Underage consumption, I could have been busted for this since I was 16 all the way up tot he night before my 21st.
Not sure what the "not as bad" is supposed to mean. My question is what are you supposed to do as a football coach?
Here in the US we have a court of law that deals with criminal investigations. That is the proper channels, not going to the school to tell on someone. If you go to the school claiming rape and won't press charges it sounds to me like you want a pay out.
A football coach isn't a lawyer and he isn't an investigator and I wouldn't want mine to be either, I want him to coach football and focus on that. If you are raped by a player, that isn't a university issue, that is a man issue that you should pursue by pressing charges on them and eventually they did and the players involved were sentenced to time in jail. Until that point, they are innocent until proven guilty and I would be hard pressed to punish a kid until he was proven guilty.
This sums it up, what action should a football coach take on hear-say information that his players are raping people?
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When one of his underage players was cited for illegal consumption of alcohol, Briles texted an assistant coach: "Hopefully he's under radar enough they won't recognize name... Just trying to keep him away from our judicial affairs folks..."
If you don't think stupid kid shite like this gets swept up every day by every one you are fooling yourself. Underage consumption, I could have been busted for this since I was 16 all the way up tot he night before my 21st.
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Another time, Colin Shillinglaw (the former assistant athletic director who filed the most recent defamation action against the regents) texted Briles that one of his players who got a massage in a spa exposed himself to the masseuse and asked for "favors." Briles responded and asked if the woman was a stripper and, when told she was not, responded "Not as bad."
Not sure what the "not as bad" is supposed to mean. My question is what are you supposed to do as a football coach?
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There are other examples of players who were doing drugs, selling drugs, pulling a gun on another student, assaulting another student. Briles' responses via text and e-mail all show he was allowing his players to act above the law. He never pursued proper disciplinary actions against any of them.
Former Baylor player Tevin Elliott, who is serving a 20-year prison sentence, allegedly sexually assaulted five women between 2009-2012. Briles was notified after the last incident but waited 10 days before taking any action and suspending Elliott from the football team.
Briles also had knowledge about sexual assaults involving players Shawn Oakman and Sam Ukwuachu, both of whom had been criminally charged.
And Briles and McCaw allegedly discussed a gang rape that involved five football players. Rather than go through proper channels to report the incident, McCaw kept it in house and went to Briles and his staff.
Here in the US we have a court of law that deals with criminal investigations. That is the proper channels, not going to the school to tell on someone. If you go to the school claiming rape and won't press charges it sounds to me like you want a pay out.
A football coach isn't a lawyer and he isn't an investigator and I wouldn't want mine to be either, I want him to coach football and focus on that. If you are raped by a player, that isn't a university issue, that is a man issue that you should pursue by pressing charges on them and eventually they did and the players involved were sentenced to time in jail. Until that point, they are innocent until proven guilty and I would be hard pressed to punish a kid until he was proven guilty.
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One could certainly argue that if Briles failed to act on information he had about his players who were raping women, that caused more women to be assaulted.
This sums it up, what action should a football coach take on hear-say information that his players are raping people?
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:21 pm to Warfarer
This kind of shite has turned me off to CFB. I have been feeling this way over the past few years, but this Baylor thing has just confirmed just how sleazy of an industry it is. Make no mistake, this kinda crap doesn't just go on at Baylor, but goes on most everywhere (especially in the SEC). These D-1 power universities have basically turned into legalized brothels and organized criminal organizations. It's pathetic.
We really need to step back and self-reflect as a society because our priorities are all out of whack. I am no prude, SJW retard, or anything of that sort, but I just think it's disgraceful when a university (which is supposed to look out for young people) encourages its own students to essentially be prostitutes to attract recruits. Baylor did this with the full knowledge of not only the staff but the administration all the way up to Ken Starr (the same guy who prosecuted Bill Clinton for leaving a stain on Monica's dress. Can we say hypocrisy?).
I was scanning HuffPo's article on the Baylor story and read some comments. One guy posted this:
Sounds about right for Bama, but the same thing goes on everywhere. Every school, especially in the SEC, had a prostitute squad (some might still have them but I think most have disbanded them). Bammer had the Bama Belles. AU had the Tigerettes. UGA had the "Dog Catchers" (lol), UT had "Orange Pride" and Florida had the "Gator Getters" (LAWL), etc. The ONLY reason these organizations existed was to parade attractive girls out in front of recruits (usually with implicit sexual favors attached). Some of these girls were even paid to perform sexual favors for recruits. One example was with Lane Kiffin. While coaching at UT, he was accused of paying a UT "Orange Pride" hostess to take a recruit out to dinner and "show him a good time" (with a wink and a nudge).
Am I the only one who thinks this kind of shite is inappropriate? Would you want your daughter being used as a fricking prostitute by the university that you are probably paying $50k a year in tuition for?
And this is just one aspect of the sleaze of CFB. Don't even get me started on academic fraud, all the Escalades being handed out like candy, and all the other shady shite that goes on.
What needs to be done: Professionalize college sports and disassociate the teams from the school itself. Turn the teams into minor league franchises and let them bid in the open for recruits. Most of these guys have zero interest in the academics, so why pretend?
We really need to step back and self-reflect as a society because our priorities are all out of whack. I am no prude, SJW retard, or anything of that sort, but I just think it's disgraceful when a university (which is supposed to look out for young people) encourages its own students to essentially be prostitutes to attract recruits. Baylor did this with the full knowledge of not only the staff but the administration all the way up to Ken Starr (the same guy who prosecuted Bill Clinton for leaving a stain on Monica's dress. Can we say hypocrisy?).
I was scanning HuffPo's article on the Baylor story and read some comments. One guy posted this:
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One of my work peers has a son that was recruited to Alabama (as a kicker; not a QB or RB), and he was "given" two of the Bama Belles. That was just a few months ago. They still exist, in spite of what the article says.
Sounds about right for Bama, but the same thing goes on everywhere. Every school, especially in the SEC, had a prostitute squad (some might still have them but I think most have disbanded them). Bammer had the Bama Belles. AU had the Tigerettes. UGA had the "Dog Catchers" (lol), UT had "Orange Pride" and Florida had the "Gator Getters" (LAWL), etc. The ONLY reason these organizations existed was to parade attractive girls out in front of recruits (usually with implicit sexual favors attached). Some of these girls were even paid to perform sexual favors for recruits. One example was with Lane Kiffin. While coaching at UT, he was accused of paying a UT "Orange Pride" hostess to take a recruit out to dinner and "show him a good time" (with a wink and a nudge).
Am I the only one who thinks this kind of shite is inappropriate? Would you want your daughter being used as a fricking prostitute by the university that you are probably paying $50k a year in tuition for?
And this is just one aspect of the sleaze of CFB. Don't even get me started on academic fraud, all the Escalades being handed out like candy, and all the other shady shite that goes on.
What needs to be done: Professionalize college sports and disassociate the teams from the school itself. Turn the teams into minor league franchises and let them bid in the open for recruits. Most of these guys have zero interest in the academics, so why pretend?
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