re: How did it come to this?

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You claim obama wanted to take away gun rights. Gun control didn't change

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He did try. That they didn't doesn't change that he attempted to restrict the 2nd Amendment more than it is now.

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can't go anywhere from no where

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You can't go anywhere, because if you look at any of his speeches about gun control, you will see I'm spot on and your argument is crap.

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I appreciate you getting so upset you start calling me lazy, but I'll take the high road

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Translation, you won't attempt to back up your statement.

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. You'll think my source is biased and I'll probably think the same about yours

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I'd be fine with, like I said.. what came straight out of his mouth. Don't know why you'd be at odds with that.

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You are however moving the goalposts from me saying explain how he "hates freedom" to his numbers as a president

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Gun control, healthcare. 2 pretty straight forward examples.

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Not what I consider a "freedom hater" but whatever

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Of course not, folks that have your mindset think that as long as something is kinda good for some of the people, no matter how it strips others of what they have, is okie dokie.