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re: How did it come to this?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:13 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:13 pm to Alahunter
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You made the original claim. The burden is on you regarding his stance on gun control
This is bad. Terrible debate form. You claim obama wanted to take away gun rights. Gun control didn't change. Then you say the burden of proof is on me to prove obama didn't want to take away guns. I can't go anywhere from no where. That's just terrible.
I appreciate you getting so upset you start calling me lazy, but I'll take the high road. We can come with different numbers from different places that will be at odds. You'll think my source is biased and I'll probably think the same about yours. You are however moving the goalposts from me saying explain how he "hates freedom" to his numbers as a president. If you can't see what the issue is with that subject change then I'll just figure you have the Boston stuff and the half assed Obamacare that was gutted by our incompetent government. Not what I consider a "freedom hater" but whatever.
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:15 pm to olddawg26
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Gun control didn't change
Only because for most of his time in office, the (R) party controlled one or both houses of Congress.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:19 pm to olddawg26
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You claim obama wanted to take away gun rights. Gun control didn't change
He did try. That they didn't doesn't change that he attempted to restrict the 2nd Amendment more than it is now.
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can't go anywhere from no where
You can't go anywhere, because if you look at any of his speeches about gun control, you will see I'm spot on and your argument is crap.
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I appreciate you getting so upset you start calling me lazy, but I'll take the high road
Translation, you won't attempt to back up your statement.
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. You'll think my source is biased and I'll probably think the same about yours
I'd be fine with, like I said.. what came straight out of his mouth. Don't know why you'd be at odds with that.
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You are however moving the goalposts from me saying explain how he "hates freedom" to his numbers as a president
Gun control, healthcare. 2 pretty straight forward examples.
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Not what I consider a "freedom hater" but whatever
Of course not, folks that have your mindset think that as long as something is kinda good for some of the people, no matter how it strips others of what they have, is okie dokie.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 4:28 pm to olddawg26
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You claim obama wanted to take away gun rights. Gun control didn't change. Then you say the burden of proof is on me to prove obama didn't want to take away guns.
Just to reiterate, exactly what started the gun control talk... it was you..
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He never once wanted to take away your guns
Obama:
seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced
he supported the DC gun ban, that was found unconstitutional
he wanted to limit handgun purchases to one per month
I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry
That's just a very small snippet for examples.
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