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re: Ya'll are over analyzing things

Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:56 pm to
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I take the with a grain of salt. We have had 5 OL drafted on the past 5 drafts. Before that we had 5 OL drafted from 1993 to 2009...17 years.


I'm having a hard time pulling that site up on my phone for some reason ... not sure about drafted OLinemen but I know we've had a lot of OLinemen sign as free agents over the years.

And even then .... great college OLines are rarely gauged by draft status. Great college OLines are gauged by production. A couple of Elliott's OLines were made to look very good by Marcus Lattimore and Connor Shaw. Both of them turned negative plays into positive yardage more times than I can count.

I get it, I do. A lot of fans are endeared to Elliott for various reasons ... he's done a good job PRing himself to the fans and even to some of the administration. That's his forte. He plays the political game very very well and he is going to make a great FCS HC somewhere, some day. But we deserve a big time OLine coach. We deserve an SEC caliber OLine coach. We deserve a guy who can, first and foremost, teach our guys to line up and drive DLinemen off the ball. We have to be able to pick up the tough 3 and 4 yards on the ground from time to time.

Our OLine has underperformed, as a unit, for some years now. Draft picks not withstanding, what our OLine does as a unit is what really matters more than probably any other position on the field. It all starts right there in the trenches and I'm just not sure that Elliott is ever gonna be the guy to take us to the promised land.

But here's the deal that just baffles me. I hear our fans talking about it all the time at bars and restaurants and games and on the radio ... so why do our coaches in charge not see it?

Answer: Because Elliott is a good politician. His kids are protective of him, he knows how to play the PR game with the fans, he lucked up with the Dillman connection, he manipulated the interim coaching gig and he knows where a skeleton is buried. All of that combined makes it very difficult to get rid of him unless .... unless you find the perfect guy to replace him.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
6368 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:17 pm to
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Our OLine has underperformed, as a unit, for some years now. Draft picks not withstanding, what our OLine does as a unit is what really matters more than probably any other position on the field.


Elliott's OL has been middle of the pack to bottom 6 seasons in Sacks Allowed & middle to bottom 4 of 6 years in Rushing.

Sacks Allowed by year (SEC rank)
2010 - 30 (9th)
2011 - 30 (8th)
2012 - 38 (13th)
2013 - 23 (T7th)
2014 - 27 (11th)
2015 - 26 (7th)

Rush Offense by year (SEC rank)
2010 - 154/gm (8th)
2011 - 192/gm (3rd)
2012 - 138/gm (13th)
2013 - 198/gm (6th)
2014 - 161/gm (9th)
2015 - 154/gm (T10th)

here's a quick comparison in salary between Elliott ($430K) and a few notable OL coaches around the SEC/country.

Sam Pittman/UGA - $650K
Mario Cristobal/Bama - $475K
Matt Luke/Miss - $465K
Don Mahoney/UTK - $465K
Shawn Elliott/USC - $430K
Herb Hand/Aub - $420K
Jeff Grimes/LSU - $378K
Kurt Anderson/Ark - $370K

Rick Trickett/FSU - $585K
Robbie Caldwell/Pickens - $465K ($110K raise from 2015)
Stacy Searels/MiamiFL - $452K

is Elliott worth the $430K?


This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 5:19 pm
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