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re: (OT) Who will win the presidency?
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:44 am to gatorhata9
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:44 am to gatorhata9
Computer programer testifies under oath in front of Ohio Legislature that he was able to write a program that rigged elections by flipping the total vote from the real winner to a pre-selected candidate.
The Market Daily News reported on 100 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, that on election day gave Romney zero votes, and Obama got 99 percent. “In more than 50 different precincts, Romney received two votes or less,” the report said. “One would think that such improbable results would get the attention of somebody out there.” Such results are a statistical impossibility and yet were frequent in many states during the 2008 and 2012 elections.
According to Philly.com , 59 voting divisions in Philadelphia produced a “head-spinning figure,” not one vote for Romney. “The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods fertilizes fears of fraud” the newspaper said.
LINK A poll watcher reported that up to 10 percent of the ballots cast at a polling station in Pennsylvania reverted to a default, which gave Barack Obama a vote no matter who the voter had selected. The incident took place in the state where officials claimed Obama got a total of 19,605 votes in 59 voting divisions to zero for Mitt Romney and not far from the 100 precincts in Ohio where Obama got 99 percent of the vote, a feat not even achieved by third-world dictators. It was in Upper Macungie Township, near Allentown, Pa., where an auditor, Robert Ashcroft, was dispatched by Republicans to monitor the vote on Election Day. He said the software he observed would “change the selection back to default – to Obama.”
Chicago elections worker Steve Pickrum reported that as an equipment manager for the elections system, he was called when a voting machine malfunctioned. “On early voting when I did work on the floor when voters needed help using the equipment, I was able to see the preference of the voter, and every time that I saw [a] voter voted for Romney a ‘voter save failure’ message came up on the screen,'” he reported. Then when he went on election day to vote himself, he picked Romney and experienced the same error message. He reported he never experienced the error message when the voter was choosing Barack Obama.
A poll worker assigned at the University of Michigan reported a list of irregularities, including that the precinct captain told her at one point, “You go sit down, you are bothering me,” when she was trying to observe the proceedings. “I was only standing there and looking at voter documents,” she told WND. “It was clear that what bothered him was my very presence.” She said a short time later a young man arrived and identified himself as a Democrat poll challenger. “The first time he said anything was to object to my challenge of a voter. He tried to anger the voter by telling her ‘She does not believe you are who you say you are.’ He was trying to create a scene. It then happened again and I told him ‘You are not here to challenge me!’ His reply was a very loud ‘Yes I am! You are a Republican and you are here to prevent people from voting. You are holding up the line and creating obstructions,'” she reported. She told WND in fact no one waited more than about 15 minutes to vote the entire day, and there were no obstructions.
The Sun Sentinel reported that election workers a week after the election said they found 963 unaccounted-for ballots – in a warehouse. “How can you lose them? This is terrible,” Chickie Brandimarte told officials. Election supervisor Brenda Snipes, however, said it’s routine for various vote totals to be adjusted up until the Nov. 18 final certification.
Claims increase of machines switching votes. Voters in Nevada, North Carolina, Texas and Ohio report that they had pushed a button on a touch-screen voting machine for Romney, but the machines recorded their vote for Obama.
The Columbus Dispatch reported that more than 20 percent of registered Ohio voters aren’t eligible. “In two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting-age population,” the report said. And, it said, in 31 other counties, registrations are above 90 percent of the population, “a rate regarded as unrealistic by most voting experts.”
The Washington Times reported that officials in Florida banned observers from seeing the absentee ballots being opened and in some districts some how more ballots were produced than there were eligible voters in those districts.
The Washington Times reported voter fraud in Pennsylvania, including that “in Philadelphia, the [New] Black Panthers are currently standing outside polling booths, intimidating voters just like they did in 2008.” It said, too, that 75 Republican polling inspectors were blocked from access to their polling stations.
The Pundit Press reported that Obama got over 99% of votes in Florida's Broward County precincts, a statistical impossibility.
The Pundit Press reported that Obama received 100% of the vote from 90% of the registered voters in dozen's of Cleveland districts, including all the voters registered as Republicans. Another statistical impossibility.
The Pundit Press reported St. Lucie County, Florida Had 141.1% Turnout; Obama Won County. Out of 175,554 registered voters, 247,713 vote cards were cast in St. Lucie County, Florida on Tuesday.
Ummmmm, you were saying?
Sorry, but there's voter fraud out the arse and it absolutely does have a huge effect on presidential elections.
Why do so many of you have your head buried in the sand? There's corruption everywhere just kicking us all in the face, and most of you are like, "Duh, I only believe what the CNN and MSNBC tells me."
Useful sheep. That's all you are.
The Market Daily News reported on 100 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, that on election day gave Romney zero votes, and Obama got 99 percent. “In more than 50 different precincts, Romney received two votes or less,” the report said. “One would think that such improbable results would get the attention of somebody out there.” Such results are a statistical impossibility and yet were frequent in many states during the 2008 and 2012 elections.
According to Philly.com , 59 voting divisions in Philadelphia produced a “head-spinning figure,” not one vote for Romney. “The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods fertilizes fears of fraud” the newspaper said.
LINK A poll watcher reported that up to 10 percent of the ballots cast at a polling station in Pennsylvania reverted to a default, which gave Barack Obama a vote no matter who the voter had selected. The incident took place in the state where officials claimed Obama got a total of 19,605 votes in 59 voting divisions to zero for Mitt Romney and not far from the 100 precincts in Ohio where Obama got 99 percent of the vote, a feat not even achieved by third-world dictators. It was in Upper Macungie Township, near Allentown, Pa., where an auditor, Robert Ashcroft, was dispatched by Republicans to monitor the vote on Election Day. He said the software he observed would “change the selection back to default – to Obama.”
Chicago elections worker Steve Pickrum reported that as an equipment manager for the elections system, he was called when a voting machine malfunctioned. “On early voting when I did work on the floor when voters needed help using the equipment, I was able to see the preference of the voter, and every time that I saw [a] voter voted for Romney a ‘voter save failure’ message came up on the screen,'” he reported. Then when he went on election day to vote himself, he picked Romney and experienced the same error message. He reported he never experienced the error message when the voter was choosing Barack Obama.
A poll worker assigned at the University of Michigan reported a list of irregularities, including that the precinct captain told her at one point, “You go sit down, you are bothering me,” when she was trying to observe the proceedings. “I was only standing there and looking at voter documents,” she told WND. “It was clear that what bothered him was my very presence.” She said a short time later a young man arrived and identified himself as a Democrat poll challenger. “The first time he said anything was to object to my challenge of a voter. He tried to anger the voter by telling her ‘She does not believe you are who you say you are.’ He was trying to create a scene. It then happened again and I told him ‘You are not here to challenge me!’ His reply was a very loud ‘Yes I am! You are a Republican and you are here to prevent people from voting. You are holding up the line and creating obstructions,'” she reported. She told WND in fact no one waited more than about 15 minutes to vote the entire day, and there were no obstructions.
The Sun Sentinel reported that election workers a week after the election said they found 963 unaccounted-for ballots – in a warehouse. “How can you lose them? This is terrible,” Chickie Brandimarte told officials. Election supervisor Brenda Snipes, however, said it’s routine for various vote totals to be adjusted up until the Nov. 18 final certification.
Claims increase of machines switching votes. Voters in Nevada, North Carolina, Texas and Ohio report that they had pushed a button on a touch-screen voting machine for Romney, but the machines recorded their vote for Obama.
The Columbus Dispatch reported that more than 20 percent of registered Ohio voters aren’t eligible. “In two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting-age population,” the report said. And, it said, in 31 other counties, registrations are above 90 percent of the population, “a rate regarded as unrealistic by most voting experts.”
The Washington Times reported that officials in Florida banned observers from seeing the absentee ballots being opened and in some districts some how more ballots were produced than there were eligible voters in those districts.
The Washington Times reported voter fraud in Pennsylvania, including that “in Philadelphia, the [New] Black Panthers are currently standing outside polling booths, intimidating voters just like they did in 2008.” It said, too, that 75 Republican polling inspectors were blocked from access to their polling stations.
The Pundit Press reported that Obama got over 99% of votes in Florida's Broward County precincts, a statistical impossibility.
The Pundit Press reported that Obama received 100% of the vote from 90% of the registered voters in dozen's of Cleveland districts, including all the voters registered as Republicans. Another statistical impossibility.
The Pundit Press reported St. Lucie County, Florida Had 141.1% Turnout; Obama Won County. Out of 175,554 registered voters, 247,713 vote cards were cast in St. Lucie County, Florida on Tuesday.
Ummmmm, you were saying?
Sorry, but there's voter fraud out the arse and it absolutely does have a huge effect on presidential elections.
Why do so many of you have your head buried in the sand? There's corruption everywhere just kicking us all in the face, and most of you are like, "Duh, I only believe what the CNN and MSNBC tells me."
Useful sheep. That's all you are.
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Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:59 am to BeefDawg
Excellent work Beefdawg
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:28 am to BeefDawg
BeefDawg definitely won this thread.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:31 am to BeefDawg
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Ummmmm, you were saying?
I said there was voter fraud. It's real, I'm not denying that.
Please actually read all of your links. If you think these are wide spread instances that are affecting election outcomes, you're outside your damn mind. Hell, most of the egregious shite is taking place in precincts where republicans don't have a chance anyway. Where they aren't going to win.
Now if you can show me instances of rampant fraud in areas where it's a historically close race, then I'm with you. But the links you provided don't provide any evidence that would swing elections. Until then, it's not costing anyone anything.
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 10:32 am
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:42 am to BeefDawg
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BeefDawg
Boom.
No election fraud? My arse...
Posted on 8/17/16 at 1:30 pm to BeefDawg
The Truth About Voter Fraudby Justin Levitt of Loyola Law School. Levitt performed a wide-ranging analysis of alleged incidents of voter fraud across the U.S. "Usually, only a tiny portion of the claimed illegality is substantiated — and most of the remainder is either nothing more than speculation or has been conclusively debunked."
The Politics of Voter Fraud by Lorraine Minnite of Columbia University. Minnite concludes that voter fraud is exceedingly rare, and that the few allegations in the record usually turn out to be something other than voter fraud: "a review of news stories over a recent two year period found that reports of voter fraud were most often limited to local races and individual acts and fell into three categories: unsubstantiated or false claims by the loser of a close race, mischief and administrative or voter error."
Fraudulent Votes, Voter Identification, and the 2012 US General Electionby John Ahlquist and Kenneth R. Mayer of the University of Wisconsin, and Simon Jackman of Stanford. The authors conducted a survey experiment "to measure the prevalence of two speci?c types of voter fraud: repeat/fraudulent ballot casting and vote buying." Their conclusion: "The notion that voter impersonation is a widespread behavior is totally contradicted by these data."
Voter ID Lawsby Minnite again. "In 95 percent of so-called 'cemetery voting' alleged in the 2010 midterm election in South Carolina, human error accounts for nearly all of what the state's highest law enforcement official had informed the U.S. Department of Justice was fraud."
They just do not vote like they used to. By a UGA professor. by M.V. Hood III of the University of Georgia and William Gillespie of Kennesaw State University. "After examining approximately 2.1 million votes cast during the 2006 general election in Georgia, we find no evidence that election fraud was committed under the auspices of deceased registrants."
Side note: I've taken a class with Hood and he's a good ole Texan, we watched a cool movie about W. Bush's first campaign in his class. Not your typical left wing pols professor.
Government Investigations
2 Year Investigation by Iowa's Republican Secretary of State found evidence of 117 possible fraudulent votes and led to just six - six! - criminal convictions.
BadgerHerald.comIn 2011 a Wisconsin task force found sufficient evidence to charge 20 people with fraudulent voting in the 2008 elections. Most of these were felons who were ineligible to vote.
A lot of data Kansas' secretary of state examined 84 million votes cast in 22 states to look for duplicate registrants. In the end 14 cases were referred for prosecution, representing 0.00000017 percent of the votes cast.
A 10-year 'death audit' in North Carolina turned up a grand total of 50 instances in which a vote may have been attributed to a deceased person, most likely due to errors made by precinct workers.
The Politics of Voter Fraud by Lorraine Minnite of Columbia University. Minnite concludes that voter fraud is exceedingly rare, and that the few allegations in the record usually turn out to be something other than voter fraud: "a review of news stories over a recent two year period found that reports of voter fraud were most often limited to local races and individual acts and fell into three categories: unsubstantiated or false claims by the loser of a close race, mischief and administrative or voter error."
Fraudulent Votes, Voter Identification, and the 2012 US General Electionby John Ahlquist and Kenneth R. Mayer of the University of Wisconsin, and Simon Jackman of Stanford. The authors conducted a survey experiment "to measure the prevalence of two speci?c types of voter fraud: repeat/fraudulent ballot casting and vote buying." Their conclusion: "The notion that voter impersonation is a widespread behavior is totally contradicted by these data."
Voter ID Lawsby Minnite again. "In 95 percent of so-called 'cemetery voting' alleged in the 2010 midterm election in South Carolina, human error accounts for nearly all of what the state's highest law enforcement official had informed the U.S. Department of Justice was fraud."
They just do not vote like they used to. By a UGA professor. by M.V. Hood III of the University of Georgia and William Gillespie of Kennesaw State University. "After examining approximately 2.1 million votes cast during the 2006 general election in Georgia, we find no evidence that election fraud was committed under the auspices of deceased registrants."
Side note: I've taken a class with Hood and he's a good ole Texan, we watched a cool movie about W. Bush's first campaign in his class. Not your typical left wing pols professor.
Government Investigations
2 Year Investigation by Iowa's Republican Secretary of State found evidence of 117 possible fraudulent votes and led to just six - six! - criminal convictions.
BadgerHerald.comIn 2011 a Wisconsin task force found sufficient evidence to charge 20 people with fraudulent voting in the 2008 elections. Most of these were felons who were ineligible to vote.
A lot of data Kansas' secretary of state examined 84 million votes cast in 22 states to look for duplicate registrants. In the end 14 cases were referred for prosecution, representing 0.00000017 percent of the votes cast.
A 10-year 'death audit' in North Carolina turned up a grand total of 50 instances in which a vote may have been attributed to a deceased person, most likely due to errors made by precinct workers.
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 1:32 pm
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