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re: How far does Bama fall when Saban leaves?
Posted on 8/13/16 at 5:09 pm to Lsuchs
Posted on 8/13/16 at 5:09 pm to Lsuchs
quote:The coaching field was always equal, Nick Saban only been here for 10 years man, now if the other schools don't know how to perform or maintain a level of success that is not always the coaches fault that is up to the schools athletic dept to get the right person there.
When you have equal coaching to the other big 6 you'll see you have no advantage was my point.
quote:I dont see what you are getting at here as Tennessee is projected to win the East and has elite talent on their roster now. Like I said dude, Louisiana, Florida, and Georgia always had an advantage in talent and resources and that did not do anything for them in the past however that doesn't mean that it wasn't there though it just means that your AD didnt put the right staff to utilize all those resources. I agree with some of the things you say man but to be honest it seems like you are making excuses on the shortcomings of other programs. Bama has to work under the same rules and guidelines as every school in the SEC and we have been successful while others have been less successful all the while working with more advantages in talent and scenery than we were. In the end, make no mistake before Saban and after Saban Bama always was the premier program in the SEC because we established a history of winning Championships and we didnt accomplish this from strictly having hall of fame coaches year in and year out.
Tennessee should be elite right now right? They were right behind Bama historically up until the last decade. Why weren't LSU, UF, and UGA not using their natural advantages against them for 40+ years... They must not exist right?
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Posted on 8/13/16 at 5:37 pm to bamaqna
My original post and what I have been basing all my posts off of is this quote:
I'm not saying Alabama won't always be a contender, that's all I expect LSU to be. But when you just swung and missed on RR and Saban fell in your lap I strongly disagree your "floor" is LSU. Smug Bama fans dont realize how thin the line between UT and Bama is.
Tennessee is a shell of their former selves, and this current recruiting class is garbage.
-They have averaged 6 wins per season over the last 5 years with 5 being the low and 9 the high.
-They haven't beaten a top 10 team in almost a decade,
Bama and Tennessee are both historically elite. Both require elite OOS recruiting to an area that is not particularly appealing. Knoxville/Tuscaloosa are not Los Angeles/Austin. Neither is Baton Rouge but the BR/Nola area plus La in general is loaded and we have it to ourselves.
Tennessee is down, Bama is up. You think y'all are above the Tennessee situation? Hiring Dooleys and Kiffins trying to get to the top again? You had just struck out on RR.. UT was playing in the SECCG sabans first year, they looked for a coach 2 years later and there wasn't a sure thing there. Just like you had done but got lucky he declined. Roles could be completely reversed if Saban leaves Miami after 08 instead of 06.
In those years when you don't have a top 3 coach in CFB you aren't going to pick and choose the best players from every state to make up your roster. That's what Tennessee did in the 90s and early 2000s. They can't find their Saban to get them back there and Tennessee can't give them the talent to get back to the top. In fact besides urban Meyer there is no other coach like that.
Now Alabama has more talent then Tennessee as a state, and arguably equal to Louisiana every few cycles, but you have auburn too. If Tulane was an SEC blue blood with an NC this decade do you think LSU would be as easy to succeed at? As easy to build an elite roster?
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The floor for Alabama post-Saban would be LSU post-Saban since Alabama is a better football program than LSU
I'm not saying Alabama won't always be a contender, that's all I expect LSU to be. But when you just swung and missed on RR and Saban fell in your lap I strongly disagree your "floor" is LSU. Smug Bama fans dont realize how thin the line between UT and Bama is.
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Tennessee is projected to win the East and has elite talent on their roster now.
Tennessee is a shell of their former selves, and this current recruiting class is garbage.
-They have averaged 6 wins per season over the last 5 years with 5 being the low and 9 the high.
-They haven't beaten a top 10 team in almost a decade,
Bama and Tennessee are both historically elite. Both require elite OOS recruiting to an area that is not particularly appealing. Knoxville/Tuscaloosa are not Los Angeles/Austin. Neither is Baton Rouge but the BR/Nola area plus La in general is loaded and we have it to ourselves.
Tennessee is down, Bama is up. You think y'all are above the Tennessee situation? Hiring Dooleys and Kiffins trying to get to the top again? You had just struck out on RR.. UT was playing in the SECCG sabans first year, they looked for a coach 2 years later and there wasn't a sure thing there. Just like you had done but got lucky he declined. Roles could be completely reversed if Saban leaves Miami after 08 instead of 06.
In those years when you don't have a top 3 coach in CFB you aren't going to pick and choose the best players from every state to make up your roster. That's what Tennessee did in the 90s and early 2000s. They can't find their Saban to get them back there and Tennessee can't give them the talent to get back to the top. In fact besides urban Meyer there is no other coach like that.
Now Alabama has more talent then Tennessee as a state, and arguably equal to Louisiana every few cycles, but you have auburn too. If Tulane was an SEC blue blood with an NC this decade do you think LSU would be as easy to succeed at? As easy to build an elite roster?
This post was edited on 8/13/16 at 6:05 pm
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