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re: Chubb vs Fournette 2016
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:25 am to djsdawg
Posted on 7/24/16 at 1:25 am to djsdawg
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The focus of the comparison is the RB talent, and these are the same exact guys all 4 seasons. Why did their production change so drastically? No Tebow meant less room for them to run.
Tim Tebow was going to make anyone look good. Just like Cam. Hell, Johnny Manziel had RBs average the same as Auburns with Cam and if you try and tell me their scheme inflates YPC for running backs I'm going to call you a fricking moron. There's a reason Nick Marshall never had his #1 RB average more than 6 YPC. It's because it's not the scheme, it was the players, which is my entire point and all you've done is reiterate that for me with your stats. You're also comparing 180 pound scat backs needing space to Bo Jackson needing space. Weren't you the one talking about apples to oranges earlier ITT?
Here's the long and short of it:
You love using YPC for Chubb because it let's you be a homer when comparing him to Fournette. However, when comparing Bo and Herschel, YPC isn't a good stat to use because it doesn't work out in Herschel's favor.
A.K.A Cherry picked stats. Good night.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:01 am to RB10
What a stupid argument. Chubb isn't in Fournette's league. Chubb is damaged goods. I don't wish injury on anyone, but Chubb's knees don't hold up. Gotta tote the rock in every game to be good. Great backs don't miss games. Great players don't miss games. Chubb isn't either.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:40 am to RB10
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It's because it's not the scheme, it was the players, which is my entire point and all you've done is reiterate that for me with your stats.
You and I are both right. It is also the players, and certain schemes make players shine. This brings us back to bo and him sharing the backfield with multiple nfl rbs like Brent fullwood. When you can't focus on one runner, it should open up more space to gain yards. Once again, it's basic math, and I bet teams like Oregon and ga tech further back this idea up. Contrast this with Chubb and fournette and Herschel all running in basic o's that don't provide such an advantage.
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