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re: How many thousands of years until current believers give up?
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:25 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
Posted on 6/6/16 at 1:25 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
Look, you've got your faith, and I won't attack you for that. Some people need something like religion in their lives...others (like myself) don't. But to turn a blind eye to the obvious contradictions in what I posted only shows that you are completely unwilling to carry on an unbiased discussion on the topic and will never be open to hearing the point of view from anyone who believes something you do not.
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Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:00 pm to KajunGator
You talk as if you think I'm a Christian bc I'm just following him blindly. I've read all of those verses you've quoted hundreds of times. I've also read the rest of the Bible, and know that they are all validated time and time again throughout the Bible. God has proven to me many times throughout my life how A)real he is, B)loving (and just) he is, C)how much I (and we all) need him, and D)that he and his word is undeniable truth.
The Bible supports itself. It doesn't need "spiritual gymnastics"... if it is read correctly and thoroughly, the truths reveal themselves. I wont deny that there are many perversions of his word out there, and I understand why people who have been exposed to those have a skeptical eye towards God. I also know through my own journey that if someone genuinely seeks the bottom-line truth, they can easily find it in his word. God's will for us, and our path to salvation through his sacrifice as well as well as our standing with him both before and after salvation are very clearly defined and easily understood.
Now, I also will not deny that there are some deeper things about God that we cant comprehend in our human, sinful, limited minds. But that's where faith comes in. And there is nothing wrong with a creation trusting it's creator even though it doesn't understand fully. One day we will. I have a child that I love dearly and would give my life for. I feed that child every day, and even though his mind is not able to comprehend where all of that food comes from, he eats what I give him because he trusts me and my love for him. He's learned to trust me because I show my love and give him cause to. God has shown his love for us time and time again, and to the point where he did give his life for us. but it wasn't just a superficial sacrifice. He actually did something way better than be a marter. He conquered death and hell for us and rose again so we might have eternal fellowship with him, and not have to pay our own eternal price for our disobedience and denial. All he asks is that we confess our need for him, believe what he says is true, and trust him. It's so simple, yet so hard for people to deny their own pride and submit to him.
The Bible supports itself. It doesn't need "spiritual gymnastics"... if it is read correctly and thoroughly, the truths reveal themselves. I wont deny that there are many perversions of his word out there, and I understand why people who have been exposed to those have a skeptical eye towards God. I also know through my own journey that if someone genuinely seeks the bottom-line truth, they can easily find it in his word. God's will for us, and our path to salvation through his sacrifice as well as well as our standing with him both before and after salvation are very clearly defined and easily understood.
Now, I also will not deny that there are some deeper things about God that we cant comprehend in our human, sinful, limited minds. But that's where faith comes in. And there is nothing wrong with a creation trusting it's creator even though it doesn't understand fully. One day we will. I have a child that I love dearly and would give my life for. I feed that child every day, and even though his mind is not able to comprehend where all of that food comes from, he eats what I give him because he trusts me and my love for him. He's learned to trust me because I show my love and give him cause to. God has shown his love for us time and time again, and to the point where he did give his life for us. but it wasn't just a superficial sacrifice. He actually did something way better than be a marter. He conquered death and hell for us and rose again so we might have eternal fellowship with him, and not have to pay our own eternal price for our disobedience and denial. All he asks is that we confess our need for him, believe what he says is true, and trust him. It's so simple, yet so hard for people to deny their own pride and submit to him.
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