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re: Over at ESPN, more talk of Auburn moving to East div., so.......
Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:03 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:03 pm to BHMKyle
If there was ever a blip that made no historical sense, it was the 1990s and early 2000s. You had Florida and Tennessee at their absolute peaks post WW2 at the exact same time.
If you combine Tennessee and Florida football together since WW2, they've combined for 36 Top 10 finishes during the past 71 years of football (19 for Tennessee and 17 for Florida).
*17 of those 36 combined Top 10 finishes occurred in the 12 seasons from 1990-2001.
*19 of those 36 combined Top 10 finishes occurred in the other 59 seasons.
Now folks like you are trying to make the case that we are right around the corner from UT and Florida being right back at the top just like 1990-2001. But the truth is that 12-year period was by far more of an anomaly.
The reason we are where we are is Florida and Tennessee have come back to reality and are no longer playing out of their minds like they did for those 12 seasons. And Kentucky and Vandy have failed to progress as programs in the same way the Mississippi schools have done so in the past few years.
If you combine Tennessee and Florida football together since WW2, they've combined for 36 Top 10 finishes during the past 71 years of football (19 for Tennessee and 17 for Florida).
*17 of those 36 combined Top 10 finishes occurred in the 12 seasons from 1990-2001.
*19 of those 36 combined Top 10 finishes occurred in the other 59 seasons.
Now folks like you are trying to make the case that we are right around the corner from UT and Florida being right back at the top just like 1990-2001. But the truth is that 12-year period was by far more of an anomaly.
The reason we are where we are is Florida and Tennessee have come back to reality and are no longer playing out of their minds like they did for those 12 seasons. And Kentucky and Vandy have failed to progress as programs in the same way the Mississippi schools have done so in the past few years.
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:09 pm to BHMKyle
There was a time the East won 6 in a row. The current West streak that has everyone claiming imbalance is 7.
The all time record is 13-11 in favor of the West.
Cyclical
The all time record is 13-11 in favor of the West.
Cyclical
Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:15 pm to BHMKyle
The divisions never made sense from a strength point to begin with. I think Roy Kramer and company were just looking at a map and betting on Florida improving as a program soon due to the population boom that was going on.... but it made no sense even in 1992.
Check AP Poll standings from 1936-1991, the year before divisional play:
#4 Alabama- 683 pts
#9 Tennessee- 484 pts
#12 LSU- 375 pts
#13 Arkansas- 374 pts
#14 Auburn- 357 pts
#16 Georgia- 320 pts
#20 Ole Miss- 273 pts
#35 Florida- 166 pts
#50 Kentucky- 96 pts
#59 Mississippi St.- 69 pts
#75 S. Carolina- 37 pts
#90 Vanderbilt- 14 pts
Five of the Top 7 programs according to the AP were all put into the West.
As for all-time SEC Championships prior to 1992, again the West had the built-in advantage, 38-24
Alabama- 19
Tennessee- 11
Georgia- 10
LSU- 7
Ole Miss 6
Auburn- 5
Kentucky- 2
Florida- 1
Miss. St.- 1
And it wasn't lop-sided just because of Alabama. Alabama and Tennessee were clearly put in separate divisions because they were by far the top 2 teams, but if you take both out, the West was bringing in 19 other SEC TItles all-time to the East's 13. Again, major advantage for the West.
It was clear even in 1992 that the West was the stronger division. The conference just got lucky that Florida had their Golden Age of football begin right as the SEC went to divisional play and UT also played some of their best football eve during that time.
What we've experienced since 2001 is closer to the way things were prior to divisions. That's the problem.
Check AP Poll standings from 1936-1991, the year before divisional play:
#4 Alabama- 683 pts
#9 Tennessee- 484 pts
#12 LSU- 375 pts
#13 Arkansas- 374 pts
#14 Auburn- 357 pts
#16 Georgia- 320 pts
#20 Ole Miss- 273 pts
#35 Florida- 166 pts
#50 Kentucky- 96 pts
#59 Mississippi St.- 69 pts
#75 S. Carolina- 37 pts
#90 Vanderbilt- 14 pts
Five of the Top 7 programs according to the AP were all put into the West.
As for all-time SEC Championships prior to 1992, again the West had the built-in advantage, 38-24
Alabama- 19
Tennessee- 11
Georgia- 10
LSU- 7
Ole Miss 6
Auburn- 5
Kentucky- 2
Florida- 1
Miss. St.- 1
And it wasn't lop-sided just because of Alabama. Alabama and Tennessee were clearly put in separate divisions because they were by far the top 2 teams, but if you take both out, the West was bringing in 19 other SEC TItles all-time to the East's 13. Again, major advantage for the West.
It was clear even in 1992 that the West was the stronger division. The conference just got lucky that Florida had their Golden Age of football begin right as the SEC went to divisional play and UT also played some of their best football eve during that time.
What we've experienced since 2001 is closer to the way things were prior to divisions. That's the problem.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:17 pm to BHMKyle
quote:Vandy had a good stretch under Franklin as did we with Brooks, but otherwise, we're just playing our part. Just thank us for the easy W, lay down during basketball season, and we're all good.
BHMKyle
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 5:18 pm
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