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re: Over at ESPN, more talk of Auburn moving to East div., so.......

Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:33 pm to
Long overdue.

Auburn moving to the East would help balance out divisions from a strength standpoint. Historically, there were three "Big 6" programs on each side of the conference, so it made sense. The problem is that Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Texas A&M are the "Next 3" behind the Big 6, and they are all on that western side. Mississippi State has also shown far more promise during the past 15-20 years than say Vandy & Kentucky.


Just look at it in terms of AP Poll points since 2000. If you total up each teams' points for finishing in the AP Top 25 at the end of each of the past 16 seasons, the West has 723 points, and the East has 552 points....a pretty decent gap, IMO.

#1 Alabama- 210
#1 LSU- 210
#3 Georgia- 172
#4 Florida- 159
#5 Auburn- 137
#6 S. Carolina- 81
#7 Missouri- 70
#8 Tennessee- 65
#9 Ole Miss- 56
#10 Arkansas- 46
#11 Texas A&M- 36
#12 Mississippi St.- 28
#13 Vanderbilt- 5
#14 Kentucky- 0

Essentially the biggest problem is the West has by far the two strongest programs of the past 1.5 decades... and the East has by far the two weakest programs of the past 1.5 decades. This creates a noticeable imbalance.

Auburn has also performed well for the West, coming in at a strong #5 spot (137 points)... far ahead of South Carolina who is #6 (81 points). The fact of the matter is that the top 3 programs in the West (LSU, Alabama, & Auburn) combine for 557 total AP Poll points since 2000.... which is more than the entire 7-team Eastern Division (552 points)

That 723-552 gap shrinks to just 656-619 if you switch Auburn and Missouri. That gap shrinks from 171 down to just 37. Switching Auburn and Mizzou would likely result in the West STILL being slightly stronger from top to bottom, but it would go a very long way towards shrinking that gap.

The problem is also this: South Carolina actually comes out to be the #6 SEC program in the AP since 2000... I don't think anyone expects them to replicate that during the NEXT 15 years. Meanwhile, Texas A&M comes in as the #11 program (out of 14) since 2000.... with their facility upgrades and obvious commitment to build a winning program, I think most any prognosticator would project them to finish better than 11th in the SEC over the next 15 seasons.

Also, even though Alabama ties with LSU in AP Poll standing since 2000, Alabama essentially gave everyone else an 8-year jump.... having minimual success from 2000-2007. Their performance over the next 15 seasons should likely average out to be better than the last 15 years, believe it or not.

So the gap looks like it could actually get worse if nothing is done to try to fix it.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:12 pm to
You contradict yourself.

You state that Arkansas, Ole Miss and Texas A&M would be the next three but by your own ranking system they are all behind Mizzou and SC? I know you try to explain it away, but the facts are the facts.

The biggest difference in the East and the West in recent history is that Alabama has been much better than any other program and UT fell off the map.

These things are cyclical. The East also had a run of domination. If you moved Auburn to the East and one of Bama or LSU took a downturn (which they will eventually) then you would have the East as the overwhelmingly more powerful division.

It's not about balance of power, it's this insane desire by some to be geographically balanced. Which again, it's not that big of a difference.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7357 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 6:11 am to
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Just look at it in terms of AP Poll points since 2000.


Why not use 1992 since that's when divisions STARTED?
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