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re: Is Derek Henry the least hyped pre-draft Heisman winner in history?

Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:43 pm to
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Let me ask you objectively, and put down the fan goggles and answer honestly, if you guys had Christian McCaffrey instead of Derek Henry against Ole Miss, would you have won?


Probably, but only because Christian McCaffery wouldn't have fumbled 2 kickoffs inside our 20 yard line like our return guys did.

As for the actual running back production, not really, no.

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Derek Henry had impressive numbers in the Ole Miss game, but the vast majority of those numbers game during parts of the game when everybody thought the game was over and Ole Miss had 2nd team in


Yea, because we handed Ole Miss a 2 score lead right off the bat, our backup QB threw interceptions and we played from behind the entire night.

Henry won us football games when other teams knew they were getting him. He wore people down, he finished them off. I'm sure Kiffin would have found 100 different ways to get McCafferry tons of touches and yards, but without Henry pounding the other team I don't think we would have won all of the rest of our games, no.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Grovewater
Member since Jul 2015
249 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 2:52 pm to
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Yea, because we handed Ole Miss a 2 score lead right off the bat, our backup QB threw interceptions and we played from behind the entire night.

Henry won us football games when other teams knew they were getting him. He wore people down, he finished them off. I'm sure Kiffin would have found 100 different ways to get McCafferry tons of touches and yards, but without Henry pounding the other team I don't think we would have won all of the rest of our games, no.


I get the argument, and I may be one of the few Ole Miss fans who will acknowledge the self-inflicted mistakes Alabama made, but if you had to describe "turnovers" in terms of a formula, I truly do believe "luck" is less than 30% of the equation. Both of those fumbled returns were from bad field position,forced by Ole Miss, which forced panic/contact. and the interceptions were forced by our defensive line living in Bama's back field all night.

The Adeboyjo catch was a gift from god, but it likely would have been an incomplete pass if it hadn't been caught, and at that point in the game there was no reason to think Bama could have stopped our offense anyways.

Look, you need some luck to beat a Nick Saban coached Championship Alabama team in Bryant Denny, but you also need players making plays. Alabama would have won the 2014 National Championship if not for pure luck by Auburn, but players also made plays at crucial times.

I will acknowledge that luck was involved, but Bama fans trying to blame purely self-inflicted mistakes and "luck" on that loss isn't fair, and it doesn't reward credit to the Ole Miss players, who without the #1 player in CFB on the field, found a way.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 2:54 pm
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