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Why do our DB's play without looking....

Posted on 1/2/16 at 11:08 am
Posted by PBD4BAMA
Sweet Home Alabama
Member since Dec 2014
4724 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 11:08 am
For the pass. Blew 2 easy int's against Mich state because of this. Do they just get beat that bad and have to catch up to the receiver? Surely they're not taught this. Drives me nuts!!!
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23835 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 11:23 am to
For some reason they never come out of phase
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
7850 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 11:35 am to
according to posters on other sites, DBs are coached to do this. to read the eyes of the receiver instead of looking back for the ball.
drives me ape#### crazy, too. dont see a lot of other teams using this technique. I do see lots of bama PI flags for using it.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 11:40 am to
I've had this debate with my dad. I think it must be something they're taught. I'm guessing the thought is that by turning around you risk the ball zipping right past you and giving up not only the completion but long run after the catch. By facing the WR, the DB can try to rake the ball out of the WR's hands. The problem is anytime the ball is slightly underthrown, there's going to be automatic PI as the DB makes contact with the slowing WR.
Posted by nastynate05
Member since Feb 2012
216 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 3:12 pm to
Saban Explains It Here

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Alabama grades whether or not a defensive back should turn and look for the ball by where they are in relation to the line of scrimmage. Usually, Tide coaches teach defensive backs to avoid looking for the ball within the first 18 yards, or the “move area,” especially if they’re playing tight, in-phase coverage.

“You have to stay in-phase with the guy until you get through the move area, which we usually tell our guys is 18 yards down field. Then you can become the receiver and look for the ball if you’re in-phase,” Saban said Thursday. “If you’re out-of-phase, you have to play the ball through the man, which means you’re not going to turn and look for it until you get back in position to look for it through the man.”

Alabama’s coverage philosophy can sometimes be exploited by offenses that try to take advantage of that “move area.” And that can often lead to pass interference calls, even when the Tide defensive backs are doing what they’re taught.

That’s what happened when Alabama senior cornerback Cyrus Jones was called for pass interference on Mississippi State’s second offensive series Saturday.

“I think he played it correctly. He was in-phase but he wasn’t through the move area,” Saban said. “We know they throw back-shoulder throws to (De’Runnya Wilson), so we were playing it that way, and the ball was thrown poorly. Who initiated the contact? I don’t know but they always call that pass interference on the defense."


This post was edited on 1/2/16 at 3:15 pm
Posted by BamaPanic
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2013
563 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

or the pass. Blew 2 easy int's against Mich state because of this. Do they just get beat that bad and have to catch up to the receiver? Surely they're not taught this. Drives me nuts!!!


Our DBs play bump and run a lot. You play the receiver unless you're damn sure you're turning and gonna catch the ball
This post was edited on 1/2/16 at 6:23 pm
Posted by crimson crazy
Member since Oct 2008
20512 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 12:41 am to
quote:

For the pass. Blew 2 easy int's against Mich state because of this. Do they just get beat that bad and have to catch up to the receiver? Surely they're not taught this. Drives me nuts!!!


If our DB's were looking back to read the QB, they would get burned constantly. You only look back when the receiver looks back, and that is only if you are stride for stride with him, which is rare. DB's can look back more once the defense is backed up into the red zone, since there's no more risk of giving up a deep pass. Watch Cyrus Jones' INT from the game for a good example of this.
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 12:42 am
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