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re: Heisman talk - Fournette, Henry, Cook

Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Mayfield wont be playing on championship weekend, the biggest weekend of the year


Even with the extra game Mayfield's numbers are better against better competition. He won't win because of the lack of exposure this weekend, but Watson won't win even with it.

Also, Watson's numbers just don't measure up, as far as QBs go, the last 5 winners.

Newton - 3,998 yards with 48 TDs
Griffin - 4,642 yards with 45 TDs
Manziel - 4,600 yards with 43 TDs
Winston - 4,013 yards with 42 TDs
Mariota - 4,452 yards with 52 TDs

Watson - 3,979 with 36 TDs (One more game to play)
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:21 pm to
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Even with the extra game Mayfield's numbers are better against better competition. He won't win because of the lack of exposure this weekend, but Watson won't win even with it.


Better competition? Yeah. Better defenses? Questionable in the extreme. Not because Watson's faced tough defenses but because the B12 has done nothing to dispel the myth of not playing defense.
Posted by Giant Leaf
On Leaf
Member since Nov 2015
4229 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:39 pm to
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Also, Watson's numbers just don't measure up, as far as QBs go, the last 5 winners.


You arent wrong

Its just how it goes

If Watson goes off and Henry is below average Watson will win. If Watson is average and Henry has a decent game he will win. Too much recency bias

This is why I vote to abolish the Heisman its just dumb
Posted by PDTigerfan
Hartsville, SC
Member since Dec 2012
67 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 7:02 pm to
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Even with the extra game Mayfield's numbers are better against better competition. He won't win because of the lack of exposure this weekend, but Watson won't win even with it.

Also, Watson's numbers just don't measure up, as far as QBs go, the last 5 winners.

Newton - 3,998 yards with 48 TDs
Griffin - 4,642 yards with 45 TDs
Manziel - 4,600 yards with 43 TDs
Winston - 4,013 yards with 42 TDs
Mariota - 4,452 yards with 52 TDs

Watson - 3,979 with 36 TDs (One more game to play)




You realize some of the stats you are showing were for 14 or 15 games right? Watson may be a little off pace for a typical Heisman winner QB but hes not that far off. His numbers are very close to Mariota and Winston through 12 games.

Watson 3323 yards passing with 27 TDs and 756 rushing with 9 TDs

After 12 games

Mariota 3470 yards passing with 36 TDs and 636 rushing with 11 TDs
Winston 3490 yards passing with 35 TDs and 220 rushing with 2 TDs
Manziel 3419 yards passing with 24 TDs and 1123 rushing and 19 TDs



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