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re: France to accept 30,000 Sryian refugees over the next two years...
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:04 am to Sneaky__Sally
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:04 am to Sneaky__Sally
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needs of many
What needs? Are we the world welfare sponsor now?
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the ideals this country was founded on
Where does it say in the Constitution that we must admit thousands of refugees from across the world and pay to house, feed and clothe them?
The country was also founded on slavery. I guess we ought to keep that around, too.
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scared of the few
France: a country of 66 million was just brought to its knees by 8-9 terrorists who killed 129 people.
USA: a country of 350 million was terrorized by 19 terrorists who killed 2,977 on 9/11.
The "few," as you put it, are pretty good at killing the many.
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 11:05 am
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:19 am to DownSouthJukin
Not nearly as good as the West is at killing them and supplying them with weapons and creating political instability in their own countries. There's a real simple solution. Stop playing World Police so that we aren't obliged to play World Welfare State. Until that happens, we have an obligation to grant sanctuary to those trying escape from the crazy our meddling has, in part, unleashed.
For all of our haranguing and chest thumping, we are capitulating to the will of terrorists. We first "sacrificed" our privacy and some pretty fundamental civil rights in the name of homeland security, then we needed to up our military spending to the tune of twice that of the 10 biggest military spenders below us combined, which has played a significant role in weakening our financial rating, now we are closing down borders and sacrificing another fundamental part of the American identity - Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, indeed. All of this is exactly what the terrorists are using in their propaganda to recruit more poor, young, ignorant people to their ranks - that the West is exactly as they say it is; weak, false, and scared.
For all of our haranguing and chest thumping, we are capitulating to the will of terrorists. We first "sacrificed" our privacy and some pretty fundamental civil rights in the name of homeland security, then we needed to up our military spending to the tune of twice that of the 10 biggest military spenders below us combined, which has played a significant role in weakening our financial rating, now we are closing down borders and sacrificing another fundamental part of the American identity - Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, indeed. All of this is exactly what the terrorists are using in their propaganda to recruit more poor, young, ignorant people to their ranks - that the West is exactly as they say it is; weak, false, and scared.
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 11:22 am
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:23 am to DownSouthJukin
I think the Constitution only states that the Federal decisions supersede the states - you can be certain there is definitely debate going on with this issue right now. But would you say our country was founded on the ideal of Liberty? The quote on the Statue of Liberty is pretty clear.
Also you just managed to compare slavery to helping refugees from a foreign conflict. I really don't feel the need to make an argument but some changes are good and some are bad.
Yes, a country of 66 million people had 100 killed in attack which to be honest, is not as bad as it could have been. And on 9/11 i think it is clear we were not prepared. I am not saying don't be prepared, don't take precautions, but I personally do not agree with closing our doors to refugees out of fear.
In addition, the most important question across the spectrum of religious, national security and international policy debate that should be considered is how do we find a way to end the conflict. Wouldn't accepting these people into our country and showing them the true compassionate ideals we claim to hold be more effective in turning the worldwide view away from Us vs. Them or this religion vs. that religion towards Peaceful Citizens of the World vs. Radical Terrorists?
Also you just managed to compare slavery to helping refugees from a foreign conflict. I really don't feel the need to make an argument but some changes are good and some are bad.
Yes, a country of 66 million people had 100 killed in attack which to be honest, is not as bad as it could have been. And on 9/11 i think it is clear we were not prepared. I am not saying don't be prepared, don't take precautions, but I personally do not agree with closing our doors to refugees out of fear.
In addition, the most important question across the spectrum of religious, national security and international policy debate that should be considered is how do we find a way to end the conflict. Wouldn't accepting these people into our country and showing them the true compassionate ideals we claim to hold be more effective in turning the worldwide view away from Us vs. Them or this religion vs. that religion towards Peaceful Citizens of the World vs. Radical Terrorists?
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