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That sounds pretty fricked up to me. Know why? Because it says in the CONSTITUTION that every citizen has a RIGHT to a fair trial.

So you're saying we have a justice system that punishes people for exercising their RIGHTS? You know what, I believe you.

They aren't being punished more for exercising their right to a fair trial, they just receive punishment more in line with the crime if they don't plea. A lot of the time that a plea deal is offered is because the DA has a full plate and don't want to frick with it and/or doesn't have a great case so they are willing to plea it down to bare minimum sentence.

And for the record, after being on jury duty a couple times, my biggest fear in this world is trial by a jury of my "peers". Sitting there before getting chosen for jury, the judge asked who wanted to be there and I was literally the only person to raise their hand. He asked me why I didn't want to be there and I told him that I had a job that depended on me and didn't have the time to be there. That right there makes the rest of the jury pool not my peer.

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Posted by AUstar

Member since Dec 2012

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Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:44 pm to Warfarer

I don't give a shite. I am just glad AU is free of those fools. I also hope Gus's staff is ruthless in ferreting troublemakers like this out of the program in the future. Kicking DW was a good start.

Anyone who gets a D-1 scholly to play football and then goes out and ruins it because they trying to act all hard like they did in HS deserves to rot in jail. I have no sympathy. fricking retards.

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Posted by beatbammer

Member since Sep 2010

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Posted on 11/1/15 at 5:47 pm to Warfarer

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And for the record, after being on jury duty a couple times, my biggest fear in this world is trial by a jury of my "peers".

Oh, I agree with you 100%. Juries scare the hell out of me.

I was on a criminal jury... a rape trial. The DA did his best, but he never presented a single piece of evidence that said that the guy accused of the rape actually raped the woman. The trial basically came down to she said-he said.

Got into the jury room and all but two of us on first vote voted "guilty". I think one reason why was that the accused was an Asian guy, i.e. he was "different" ergo he was GUILTY. But I actually took "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" seriously and I did not intend to vote to send a man in prison for something he either didn't do or MIGHT NOT have done.

Might he have committed the crime? Sure... always that possibility. But there sure as hell was a serious lack of actual PROOF that he did. The jury ended up voting not guilty. The accusers family stood up and screamed at the jury after the verdict. Later I got nice letters from both the judge and the DA apologizing for being subject to that abuse and thanking me for my jury service (I assume everyone on the jury got one).

Being a responsible citizen on a jury isn't easy, especially on juries considering crimes of violence. My experience on a jury convinced me that there are lots and lot of innocent people rotting in prison these days. And that ultimately changed my thinking on capital punishment (I'm now against it).

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