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re: Greetings Everyone. Tell Me About Tom Ritter
Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:24 pm to junkfunky
Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:24 pm to junkfunky
He has an industrial sale job in Nashville and some Tennessee fans that claimed to know him have said that a lot of his clients are big REC members and we would all shite if we knew who they actually were. I researched it and could not find the connection and they never provided any concrete information on this so who knows. But it does make you wonder why we don't have full time refs.
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:24 pm to AUstar
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what does "REC" stand for exactly?
short for Red Elephant Clubs of Alabama
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It's bammer's alumni club
No. No requirement that members be alumni
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that is responsible for $100 dollar handshakes and recruiting
Yes. Even though there are dozens of chapters and hundreds of members, we've somehow managed to make EVERY member keep quiet and never talk about the handshakes or cash donations. hunreds of members. maybe even thousands.
In reality it's just an organized group of fans that meets semi-frequently and has former players, coaches, or current coaches come speak. And it is made clear by every coach who speaks, "we appreciate your support, but we don't need your help in recruiting. don't try to talk to these kids or try to influence them."
REC doesn't have nearly the inside info or influence of The A Club.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:27 pm to TutHillTiger
Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:32 pm to John Keating
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Greetings Everyone. Tell Me About Tom Ritter
All you need to know is that Steve Shaw came up to Les Miles in person at media days and apologized to him for Ritter's incompetence in last year's game.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:35 pm to therick711
Who is Steve Shaw?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 4:36 pm to cyde
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Link? I'm seeing something completely different.
Ok, I fell for it. Well then he looks like a Bama Alumni...
Posted on 10/28/15 at 5:02 pm to TutHillTiger
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He has an industrial sale job in Nashville
He is actually the chairman at Ram Consolidated Industries. Other officers in the company are:
Steve Rusmisell - no Bama connection
William Patterson - no Bama connection
Wade Kerr - no Bama connection
John Metrione - no Bama connection
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some Tennessee fans that claimed to know him have said that a lot of his clients are big REC members
Such as? REC isn't where the huge money is anyway.
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I researched it and could not find the connection and they never provided any concrete information on this so who knows
Connection doesn't exist. If it did he'd be removed from the list of officials. Can't be an alum or do business with any member institutions.
Ritter is from Texas. He went to college at Rice. He has lived in Nashville since the early 80s due to his business. He's been with two companies in the 32+ years he's been in Nashvilled (neither have anything to do with Bama). The kind of work he does is usually handled at Bama by an alum (most often one of Bryant, Jr.'s companies).
Ritter also has no children who now or even have gone to Bama. He has no inlaws who are affiliated with Bama. Finally, Bama has a worst record in games he officiates than any other conference ref that has officiated 3 or more Bama games. We don't like him either.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 5:31 pm to bamasgot13
Informative post.
So, a picture is taking shape: The SEC does in fact have notoriously bad officiating and Tom Ritter plays a big part in that reality. He makes questionable calls or is the crew leader of the unit that makes questionable calls. Apparently, a couple of his questionable calls (such as the Patrick Peterson INT) have occurred at crucial moments in a game and have affected LSU in a highly detrimental manner that influenced the outcome of the game. LSU is flagged at a higher level when officiated by a Tom Ritter led crew. Alabama has also been flagged at a higher level when officiated by a Tom Ritter led crew although they have not been the victim of a questionable call at a crucial moment in a big game.
The circumstances above have led some LSU fans to believe there is collusion between Tom Ritter and his crew and Alabama. Tom Ritter has no formal connection to Alabama; it is unknown if he is a fan of any particular SEC school.
With all the riches that the SEC has at its disposal, one would think that the conference could hire a full time, professional, competent officiating crew. A failure on the part of the SEC to take this issue seriously has helped foster the current presumption of officiating incompetence, unaccountability, and, in some cases, conspiracy. Hopefully, this upcoming game will be spared another officiating controversy.
So, a picture is taking shape: The SEC does in fact have notoriously bad officiating and Tom Ritter plays a big part in that reality. He makes questionable calls or is the crew leader of the unit that makes questionable calls. Apparently, a couple of his questionable calls (such as the Patrick Peterson INT) have occurred at crucial moments in a game and have affected LSU in a highly detrimental manner that influenced the outcome of the game. LSU is flagged at a higher level when officiated by a Tom Ritter led crew. Alabama has also been flagged at a higher level when officiated by a Tom Ritter led crew although they have not been the victim of a questionable call at a crucial moment in a big game.
The circumstances above have led some LSU fans to believe there is collusion between Tom Ritter and his crew and Alabama. Tom Ritter has no formal connection to Alabama; it is unknown if he is a fan of any particular SEC school.
With all the riches that the SEC has at its disposal, one would think that the conference could hire a full time, professional, competent officiating crew. A failure on the part of the SEC to take this issue seriously has helped foster the current presumption of officiating incompetence, unaccountability, and, in some cases, conspiracy. Hopefully, this upcoming game will be spared another officiating controversy.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 5:51 pm to John Keating
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Alabama has also been flagged at a higher level when officiated by a Tom Ritter led crew although they have not been the victim of a questionable call at a crucial moment in a big game.
Gonna have to disagree. Called a dead ball personal foul on a bama lineman trailing the play on the 1st play of overtime last year on a play that had Bama inside the LSU 1 yard line. The call backed Bama up to the 15 and it was questionable on if personal foul or simply trying to get downfield to push his guy into endzone. Bama overcame that penalty.
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Hopefully, this upcoming game will be spared another officiating controversy.
Another? Tell me which one(s) you are referring to.
PP7 int/no int? LSU needed 7 to win there any way. They weren't getting it and likely know that but prefer to complain about refs.
The obvious PI on Keith Brown in the endzone resulting in an INT that wasn't called? LSU was going to win that game any way and we know it.
I honestly can't think of any situation where an officials call has decided the Bama/LSU game.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 5:59 pm to bamasgot13
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Gonna have to disagree. Called a dead ball personal foul on a bama lineman trailing the play on the 1st play of overtime last year on a play that had Bama inside the LSU 1 yard line. The call backed Bama up to the 15 and it was questionable on if personal foul or simply trying to get downfield to push his guy into endzone. Bama overcame that penalty.
Good to know. I have not watched all the Alabama-LSU games.
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I honestly can't think of any situation where an officials call has decided the Bama/LSU game.
Clarification: I did not mean to suggest that particular call (the Patrick Peterson INT) caused LSU to lose the game. I meant only to say that it was a more noticeable call (a dynamic INT as opposed to a holding call) and occurred at a crucial moment in the game therefore it received more notice and attention. It tends to stand out over others.
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Another? Tell me which one(s) you are referring to.
Clarification: I meant the general climate of officiating controversy and the performance of SEC officials taken as a whole and not limited just to the LSU-Alabama games.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:04 pm to bmy
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Kiffin also suggested the SEC office favors Alabama and Florida
The same Lane Kiffin who -- mistakenly -- accused Urban Meyer of cheating and was reprimanded by the league for it?
Tennessee-era Kiffin is the big boom y'all have come up with? You'll pardon me if I'm (much) less than impressed.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 6:08 pm to Katy Tiger
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The data seems to indicate that Ritter loves to throw flags on LSU.
The problem is that this isn't the only thing the data indicates. Some fans have a tendency to be unable to see past the end of their own noses.
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