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At what point does it cross the line for you?

Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:33 pm
Posted by DocHoliday11
South Georgia
Member since Jun 2013
4316 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:33 pm
Rebel flag, colonel, FDWL, and the state flag are all gone. Now I've heard the NCAAP has sent in a petition to have to confederate soldier statues removed. It is obvious there's a group that won't stop until all traces of mississippi's "history" is gone from campus. My question is at what point is it too far for you as a fan. Taking down the statue, removing the confederate grave, renaming all the buildings, changing ole miss, changing rebels? Where is your personal cut-off? For me, it will be when we are no longer ole miss or the rebels
Posted by olemiss5931
Augusta, GA
Member since Apr 2012
2247 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:38 pm to
Im the same as you. If they did away with ole miss or rebels, then the school would never see a dime of money from me again
Posted by DocHoliday11
South Georgia
Member since Jun 2013
4316 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:38 pm to
For the record I think the flag should be changed and I'm okay with them taking away the rebel flag. I think the colonel is made in resemblance of blind jim ivey but I understand the opposing view. I wish they would bring FDWL back because it gives me chills.... But the students would chant the south will rise again so that will never happen.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 3:40 pm
Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9394 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:39 pm to
I won't stop supporting "The Ole Miss Rebels"

Do I like ANYTHING they are changing? frick no. But nothing I do will change anything. I love OM and I love the time I had there.

Even if they change "Ole Miss" "Rebels" or anything else they will always be and only ever be OM and the Rebels. Just like how I don't acknowledge the Black Bear my son will grow up knowing it as a faux mascot and he will only know Colonel Reb.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
53358 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:39 pm to
We should never be content with continuing to glorify any type of Civil War or pre-Civil Rights paraphernalia in any form.

frick every single one of the racist fricks that have given us this egregious reputation that, in the face of having made more progress in this area than any other institution in the United States of America, we still aren't able to live down.

frick every single one of them and their damn flags too.

frick you too for good measure.
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4704 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:39 pm to
It's already "crossed the line" for me. But I try not to think about it.

It doesn't help us and it evidently hurts them so maybe taking it down is the right thing I'm not sure. What makes me mad is that eventually whatever is complained about will be removed without question.
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:42 pm to
I'm ok with getting rid of the State/Rebel flag. I was ok with changing the name of confederate drive. I accepted getting rid of the colonel.

I will never send my children to the school or donate money again if they get rid of "Ole Miss" or "Rebels".

Same for if they remove statues to confederate soldiers. That's too fricking far. I'm ok with not honoring the confederacy (confederate drive, etc) but you should be able to honor the individual soldiers.
Posted by DocHoliday11
South Georgia
Member since Jun 2013
4316 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 3:44 pm to
Thanks for your input. And I definitley agree that whenever the KKK and other ignorant white trash people are upset and mad at you then you are probably doing something right. My thing is at what point are you supposed to let a dead dog lie and truly move on with a fresh mind. In no way do I think removing or building on top of a grave is necessary or progressive
Posted by FDOM
Member since Oct 2014
422 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 4:12 pm to
Not completly sure. I agree with the removal of all the symbols you listed including the Rebel (confederate) Flag. Biggest thing we did for our football program in 40 years. The 70s and 80s were bad folks.....I mean horrible.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8818 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 4:14 pm to
Don't really care about Colonel Reb or the flag. Would be sad to see Ole MIss or Rebels go and would make a stink.

As for the monument. I am a former Soldier myself and feel pretty strongly about that. It memorializes the lowly fighting man, not the government they fought under. Do I have a problem with the Iraqis having monuments to soldiers who fought under Sadaam? No. Germans with monuments to soldiers from WWII? No. Regardless of what the powers that be got them into, the average soldier in most circumstance fights because they care about their people and that should be respected. I would really lose my shite.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

It's already "crossed the line" for me. But I try not to think about it.

It doesn't help us and it evidently hurts them so maybe taking it down is the right thing I'm not sure. What makes me mad is that eventually whatever is complained about will be removed without question.

Posted by FDOM
Member since Oct 2014
422 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 5:01 pm to
I agree
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 5:15 pm to
I could give two shits about most of it. I honestly cant wait until they stop playing "dixie". I cant believe we still do that. Idolizing the civil war and those who fell just isnt important to me. And if I know more about civil war history than you, then it doesnt matter to you either, you just like to bitch.

I thought Rebels would be my line in the sand awhile back when I had this same discussion, but Im not sure it is now. It would be odd for me to say anything other than "lets go rebs", but idk. That one is iffy for me.

Where I draw the line is Ole Miss. I absolutely love it. It is unique and it distances our-self from simply Mississippi in the way that I feel Oxford differs from most of the state. It is different from the rest of the state and I like not having "Mississippi" in our name.

I unlike a lot of Mississippians, and Im sure some of you, do not take pride in the civil war and do not take pride in my home state. We are last in everything and the state as a whole brings down the school I love at least in perception.

For those who are sick of the Ole Miss comes from Old Missus, understand that that assumption is a theory that compared to another, doesnt hold a lot of water.

The woman who named the year book "Ole Miss" back in the 20's, where we got our nickname... her parents were not alive when people owned slaves. No one used that type of vernacular anymore. But you know what was in existence while she was at the University of Mississippi? A train that ran up and down the River from New Orleans to Memphis, named non other than "Ole Miss".

So out of those two theories which makes more sense? She named a yearbook "Ole Miss" from the saying "Old Missus" that hadnt been used in 80 years, or a train named "Ole Miss" that ran while she named the year book "Ole Miss".
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26155 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Now I've heard the NCAAP has sent in a petition to have to confederate soldier statues removed


Statue on campus is a national landmark. It can't be moved. They tried in the late 80s
Posted by DingDongEddieStrong
Member since Aug 2013
3779 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 5:44 pm to
I still think we are a ways away before they will touch Ole Miss or Rebels.

The administration has done everything they can to remove symbols on campus that are associated with the Confederate flag. Dixie would have stuck around IMO if that damn chant didn't begin in the early 2000s. Once that continued the administration had no choice but to shut it down. FDWL could have stayed if the students simply stopped the chant.

For those that really want to keep the name Rebels, having a replacement mascot like the Black Bear does more good than they realize. The Black Bear creates a buffer that they can point to and say, "See, this is how we define 'Rebels,' not the racist way you may think."

At the end of the day, I am a graduate of the University of Mississippi and I have been a lifelong supporter and will always be. That feeling doesn't go away when symbols are removed. At the heart of it, the people, the scenery, and the experiences are the most important attributes for me. Not a damn mascot, or logo, or even uniforms. I just want what's best for Ole Miss.
Posted by Less Cowbell
Powder Springs, GA
Member since Nov 2014
624 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Now I've heard the NCAAP has sent in a petition to have to confederate soldier statues removed


Well, there's the soldier in the circle and one in the square. The one in the square is not part of the University, so ASB, Faculty/Senate/ whatever can't out vote the general population like they did on the flag.

The University NCAAP has said the flag was the first phase. It's time to pack up and relocate Ole Miss because everything here is a divisive issue.
Posted by Less Cowbell
Powder Springs, GA
Member since Nov 2014
624 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

I wish they would bring FDWL back because it gives me chills.


I'm pretty sure the band played some form of Dixie on the field before the game this past weekend.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75650 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Im the same as you. If they did away with ole miss or rebels, then the school would never see a dime of money from me again
I've said it before and I mean it. The moment they take away either of those, mainly Ole Miss, I won't only stop sending money, I'll start sending donations to State or LSU
Posted by TSUNRebel
DeSoto County
Member since May 2014
560 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 6:12 pm to


I'm on board with the changes, I think we have to be able to adapt and change to our environment.

But still, when all that is left to be oppressive is our whiteness, what then?

I was accused of causing an oppressive work environment because of an Ole Miss logo. Not the Colonel, not the Confederate flag and not even the word Rebels.

Just the "Ole Miss" lettering.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 6:18 pm to
Literally any charity in the world would be better than giving to State or LSU. Let's not get ridiculous
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