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re: The Death Penalty

Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:01 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:01 am to
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For instance, I dont view all human life as equal. A fetus doesnt have the same societal value as a five year, but it has far more value than someone who kills people as a hobby. I support the death penalty because because I view the latter form of life essentially worthless to society, and largely oppose abortion because while it isnt "murder" in my opinion it usually deprives a future person the chance at life usually for convenience. Such an act sets a terrible precedent for society as a whole regardless of how valuable a fetus is.



But I look at it as this way: is it selfish to pull out and deny life? If that baby has no business being conceived in the first place and a person who births it has no means to raise it on their own, what's the big crime here?

Previously (and still in much of the world), the penalty for that would be to watch your baby slowly but surely starve to death and thus putting the parent into even larger turmoil. Now it's on our dime to clean up your frick-up, as well as any future frick-up that kid commits when he/she grows older.

Your mistake should not cost the people millions of dollars. We should get a vote, because now we become your employers. I vote we open as many avenues as possible in order for the idiots to stop popping out more idiots, and abortion is one of those avenues that has been fairly effective. It's what's driving me nuts on everyone wanting "Planned Parenthood" defunded. Yes it's fricked up they have abortion quotas, and they shouldn't have them, but they still provide a very big net good for society.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:04 am to
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Previously (and still in much of the world), the penalty for that would be to watch your baby slowly but surely starve to death and thus putting the parent into even larger turmoil.


I've always had this paradox that I ask people: If you had to choose between watching your five year old die or your wife having a miscarriage, and one had to go, which would you choose?

It seems obvious to me, but apparently there are ways to wiggle out of the question. Just a matter of value, I suppose.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
46590 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:05 am to
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I'll never get to the point where I'm willing to acknowledge the ends justify the means on this one.

And I used to be with you on PP, the idea that their other health benefits were worth funding them. But if even part of what the videos claim is true I have a much tougher time agreeing with using federal funds on them. The videos claim they are committing multiple widespread felonies and that needs to be stopped before we agree to continue funding them IMO.
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