re: I'm tired of people trying to argue the Big 10/PAC 12 are on our level

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Pre Meyer OSU wasn't the same, though. I'll agree this OSU team in the SEC would be a top contender for a playoff.

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Same with 2013 FSU. That team was fricking awesome. They'd probably be the favorite to win the west if they were in it. But Jesus, that's all they would have been. They would have had to get through the schedule just like all the past west winners and runner-ups. They might have had a what...30? 40? 50% chance to run the table in the west? They had damn near a 100% chance to win the ACC that year. That's a damn joke.