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re: Auburn vs. LSU game breakdown

Posted on 9/14/15 at 11:47 am to
Posted by FranMully
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Posted on 9/14/15 at 11:47 am to
Isn't that a big indictment on your team though. "Oh we wont need Lawson. Well shite we almost lost to Jacksonville State, maybe we should have played our partially injured D lineman"

Auburn should be a good enough team to lose 1 defensive lineman and not play as badly as they did.Sure Lawson may come back, and he might be 100% IDK. But LSU is great at going against top tier D LIneman. They handled Clowney very well, and they also did well against Garrett.

Its the same on offense. Like sure JJ played terribly. But the most basic of runs should be able to beat JSU. Just handing it off should be good enough against that level of opponent. So what makes Auburn fans think that their offense will do better against LSU? And im not ripping or anything, but i don't see a lot of well articulated scheme points from Aubrun fans on here.

Just my 2 cents
This post was edited on 9/14/15 at 11:48 am
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Isn't that a big indictment on your team though. "Oh we wont need Lawson. Well shite we almost lost to Jacksonville State, maybe we should have played our partially injured D lineman"

Auburn should be a good enough team to lose 1 defensive lineman and not play as badly as they did.Sure Lawson may come back, and he might be 100% IDK. But LSU is great at going against top tier D LIneman. They handled Clowney very well, and they also did well against Garrett.

Its the same on offense. Like sure JJ played terribly. But the most basic of runs should be able to beat JSU. Just handing it off should be good enough against that level of opponent. So what makes Auburn fans think that their offense will do better against LSU? And im not ripping or anything, but i don't see a lot of well articulated scheme points from Aubrun fans on here.

Just my 2 cents



Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54184 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 11:54 am to
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But the most basic of runs should be able to beat JSU. Just handing it off should be good enough against that level of opponent. So what makes Auburn fans think that their offense will do better against LSU?
I agree with you and the only reason for hope is that Malzahn has proven to field good offenses and should be able to figure something out and that the QB play can't get much worse.

I think as a fan base we hope we are a different team than what we have shown, but we aren't confident in that at the moment.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 11:57 am to
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Auburn should be a good enough team to lose 1 defensive lineman and not play as badly as they did.


Me thinks you have not been paying attention. It wasn't just Lawson.

Our 4 best defensive players are: Lawson, Adams, Mathews and Garret. Only 1 of those suited up Saturday.

In addition, Countess and Hoseley went out early (targeting in second quarter and injured knee first possession of game) - two starters in our secondary.

To recap, the following STARTERS on defense either did not play at all or played approximately 1 quarter:

Lawson - DE (our best DE)
Garret - LB (our best LB)
Mathews - SS (our best safety)
Countess - CB (maybe our best CB)
Hoseley - CB (2 year starter)

That is 5/11, almost half our D and we are not especially deep on defense as it is.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 9/14/15 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Isn't that a big indictment on your team though. "Oh we wont need Lawson. Well shite we almost lost to Jacksonville State, maybe we should have played our partially injured D lineman"

Auburn should be a good enough team to lose 1 defensive lineman and not play as badly as they did.Sure Lawson may come back, and he might be 100% IDK. But LSU is great at going against top tier D LIneman. They handled Clowney very well, and they also did well against Garrett.


This is definitely concern for us. But losing Matthews, Garrett, Holsey & Countess also didn't help. Our main point is there is a HUGE difference in our defensive play when Lawson is in & when he's out. It sucks that one guy has that big of an impact on our defense but not that crazy. Imagine our 2010 defense if Nick was knocked out. Would be ugly....

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Its the same on offense. Like sure JJ played terribly. But the most basic of runs should be able to beat JSU. Just handing it off should be good enough against that level of opponent. So what makes Auburn fans think that their offense will do better against LSU? And im not ripping or anything, but i don't see a lot of well articulated scheme points from Aubrun fans on here.


Well part of the problem is we didn't do that. It was obvious Gus wanted to work on passing game. Which didn't go so swell. When we decided to ride Barber we ran it down their throats. We were also down our starting RT so we moved our guard out to tackle where he isn't as good of a fit. Still you would like to seem more push than we got at times.

As for hope against LSU, AU is still 2-0 & there is still a bunch of talent on this team. Personally I just have a hard time believing we are going to be this bad every week with the talent on this roster & the coaches on this staff. Our 2 biggest issues are injuries & bad reads. Both can be resolved, the question is will they? So of course as a die hard AU fan I think they will but won't be surprised if they don't and we get blown out.

I am excited about Saturday. We get to find out if this AU team is gonna fold or make the adjustments it needs to be good. No matter the result I do hope it's a good game as there was a time that LSU vs AU was THE most exciting game every year

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