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re: Why Evander Holyfield thinks Notre Dame’s a better fit than Georgia for his son
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:32 am to SavageOrangeJug
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:32 am to SavageOrangeJug
I don't think I would be taking finical advise from someone that made $250 Million in his career and went bankrupt.
Or take life advise from someone who has 11 kids with 6 different women..
Or take life advise from someone who has 11 kids with 6 different women..
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:35 am to Pettifogger
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Extremely subjective and dubious rankings
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AND general American consensus of school rankings
So, American consensus is NOT extremely subjective? You just said general American consensus (opinion) is NOT subjective?
What you are saying if we take a vote, then that determines which school is the best?
This post was edited on 9/10/15 at 8:40 am
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:38 am to Pettifogger
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Extremely subjective and dubious rankings
And you think USN&WR is not filled with holes?
Look, we can probably agree most any ranking will have some inherent ranking bias, and even without said bias, the south will have long suffering historical and image bias from folks not actually experienced with education in regions they have not ventured to live in.
That being said, some formal ranking at least attempts to create order than a bunch of us on here measuring dicks amongst ourselves. (don't get excited TAMU fans, it was metaphoric dick measuring and not actual dick measuring.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:39 am to Pettifogger
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's #3 I'd say. I'd rank it ahead of Emory but I hate Emory.
You'd ranke Georgia ahead of Emory? I guess maybe overall.....it is still considered a very good medical school, or has it changed? I honestly haven't looked at school rankings in a long, long time. If you rank Georgia ahead of Emory, then what other two schools would you put above Georgia....I mean GT, of course. That is a given, but I know a lot of people say once you get outside of Engineering they are a more average school.....again, I don't really know or care. At one time Berry was considered top 3, but I have heard it has dropped.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:39 am to SavageOrangeJug
I think any parent who loves their child would want them to go to Notre Dame over UGA. It's a no-brainer.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:42 am to DawgsLife
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So, American consensus is NOT extremely subjective? You just said general American consensus (opinion) is NOT subjective?
What you are saying if we take a vote, then that determines which school is the best?
I'm saying that I'm going to side with a plethora of American rankings and American public opinion over Shanghai rankings, yes.
It's all subjective. I'm not going to pretend that LSU is in the academic class of Notre Dame, however. Why would I?
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:43 am to SabiDojo
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I think any parent who loves their child would want them to go to Notre Dame over UGA. It's a no-brainer.
And I can understand this, too. Whether it is true or not Notre Dame is PERCEIVED to be a MUCH better school. But for the sake of argument, let's say Georgia is the better school....perception is more powerful than actuality in many cases. If you see someone with a degree from Notre Dame, you typically are more impressed. How much in the grand scheme of things does the degree from a particular university help or hurt? I don't know.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:43 am to Pettifogger
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I'd rank it ahead of Emory but I hate Emory
I don't hate Emory but I think much of their rankings are due to the medical side. Some relatives went there (siblings who could not get in Vandy) and I love them but no damn common sense among them. Bless their hearts.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:45 am to Pettifogger
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'm saying that I'm going to side with a plethora of American rankings and American public opinion over Shanghai rankings, yes.
It's all subjective. I'm not going to pretend that LSU is in the academic class of Notre Dame, however. Why would I?
I got you, and for the record I agree with you. A degree from Notre Dame is more impressive than one from Georgia. I was just being nit picky about your wording. IHATE it when people strain gnats with me, and there I was doing the same to you. My apologies.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:45 am to DawgsLife
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You'd ranke Georgia ahead of Emory? I guess maybe overall.....it is still considered a very good medical school, or has it changed? I honestly haven't looked at school rankings in a long, long time. If you rank Georgia ahead of Emory, then what other two schools would you put above Georgia....I mean GT, of course. That is a given, but I know a lot of people say once you get outside of Engineering they are a more average school.....again, I don't really know or care. At one time Berry was considered top 3, but I have heard it has dropped.
1/2) Tech/Emory
3) UGA
I'm tempted to put UGA ahead of Emory. Emory kids can be terrible and are often avoided by firms in Atlanta. Huge generalization, of course, but I know of partners at AmLaw firms in Atlanta who went to Emory but avoid hiring Emory kids. It's not really specific to me.
For value, Tech and UGA are at the top, without question.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:46 am to Cheese Grits
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I don't hate Emory but I think much of their rankings are due to the medical side. Some relatives went there (siblings who could not get in Vandy) and I love them but no damn common sense among them. Bless their hearts.
I think a few years ago Emory was caught reporting statistics that helped bump up their educational rankings. I still tend to think of them as a very good school, though.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:47 am to BarberitosDawg
Evander Jr attends Woodward Academy:
Pre-K $15,100.00
K $18,650.00
1-6 $21,360.00 X6
7-12 $24,800.00 x5
7-12 text-books $1,000 per year.
Bus fee per year $2,290 x 14
Total $317,970 vested in academics and getting Jr back and forth.
I don't know what the football fees are as they weren't listed.
Maybe pop should be pissed he didn't go the ND route.
Pre-K $15,100.00
K $18,650.00
1-6 $21,360.00 X6
7-12 $24,800.00 x5
7-12 text-books $1,000 per year.
Bus fee per year $2,290 x 14
Total $317,970 vested in academics and getting Jr back and forth.
I don't know what the football fees are as they weren't listed.
Maybe pop should be pissed he didn't go the ND route.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:47 am to Pettifogger
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For value, Tech and UGA are at the top, without question.
Georgia has definitely improved the education they provide. I hope they continue that.
I was just curious about your opinion and find no fault with it. Seems solid to me.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:48 am to BarberitosDawg
All that for fricking Woodward
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:49 am to BarberitosDawg
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Total $317,970 vested in academics and getting Jr back and forth.
I don't know what the football fees are as they weren't listed.
Maybe pop should be pissed he didn't go the ND route.
Bet they gave him a football scholarship. He probably got the education free or close to it.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:49 am to DawgsLife
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I was just curious about your opinion and find no fault with it. Seems solid to me.
I'm kind of biased as I went to UGA. But that is partially setoff by the fact that I hate UGA.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:52 am to DawgsLife
Everyone knows Georgia is an incredible university, from undergraduate studies to graduate studies.
It's just that Notre Dame is a famous university where you're more than just a graduate. You're a member of an exclusive club.
Let's assume Notre Dame and UGA are equal. Try this comparison. Your son or daughter is applying to business school and gets accepted into Cal Berkeley and Harvard. Very little separates the schools academically. Which one would you want your child to pick? For me, it would be Harvard. U.S. Presidents, Senators, Fortune 500 CEO's, are what make up their alumni base.
It's the brand associated with the name. It's more than a school. It's an institution.
Notre Dame has that kind of brand. Not to the same degree as Harvard, but it does have it.
It's just that Notre Dame is a famous university where you're more than just a graduate. You're a member of an exclusive club.
Let's assume Notre Dame and UGA are equal. Try this comparison. Your son or daughter is applying to business school and gets accepted into Cal Berkeley and Harvard. Very little separates the schools academically. Which one would you want your child to pick? For me, it would be Harvard. U.S. Presidents, Senators, Fortune 500 CEO's, are what make up their alumni base.
It's the brand associated with the name. It's more than a school. It's an institution.
Notre Dame has that kind of brand. Not to the same degree as Harvard, but it does have it.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:52 am to Pettifogger
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I'm kind of biased as I went to UGA. But that is partially setoff by the fact that I hate UGA.
Are you one of the things MR has lost control of?
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:53 am to SabiDojo
Notre Dame is a Catholic cult school. If any parent sends their child there, they truly do not love their children.
Posted on 9/10/15 at 8:57 am to Cheese Grits
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Are you one of the things MR has lost control of?
Hell no, Goff lost control of me
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