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re: Disappointing recruits of the last 3 years or so....

Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:04 pm to
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ReauxlTide222
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What? I can barely follow what you're trying to say here.


I'm actually restating your own objections. So if you're confused, then congratulations. You've caught up with the rest of us who are trying to make sense of your positions in this thread.

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1000 yards isn't what it used to be.


I agree.

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It's happening more than once every single year now and will continue to happen.


I agree. On both counts. Did anyone here say that wouldn't occur? Once again you're leaving out context in order to try to win the argument as opposed to be objective.

We're talking about Freshman rushing for 1,000 yards. Not just anyone rushing for 1,000 yards.

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It's a fact that you're using the 1000 yards as to why LF is living up to the hype.


Once again, you're leaving out the context that you're actually trying to argue about me not being able to use in the first place. He was a great receiver in the limited attempts where we went to him. He also held onto the football very well. But most importantly, he was the 4th leading KOR in the SEC and put us in great field position to start drives where he then impacted the game in a big way for us offensively.

So no, it's more than just 1,000 yards rushing. But you're saying its fact that's what I'm using. When half of our disagreement is that you want to limit the discussion strictly to his rushing statistics, which I've been against, along with any rational, objective person.

How does this work? You're saying that I'm only using rushing stats (and the 1,000 barrier) to prop him up after saying that I shouldn't be able to use any other stats to prop him up?

Dude you are all over the road in this thread.

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It's a fact that 1000 yards doesn't come close to living up to his hype.


While neither of us ever stated this as some magical Mendoza line of sorts to delineate between coming close to living up to the hype, I never said that it did.

Which is why I went on to mention his kickoff returns, and touched on his pass-catching and his ball security, and the fact that he did this with zero help from the passing game and two seniors who were productive ahead of him on the depth chart.

Which you went on to try to minimize or negate. How in the world can you selectively forget what you're actually arguing with me about in order to try and reframe my own disagreement? You talk about being confused, but I am actually questioning your mental faculties based on how you're all over the place here.

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It's a fact that 1000 yards is no longer as special as you're making it out to be. It happens damn near every....single...year.


I do think its a mark that measures a good season. But I'm not talking about in a vacuum. You're the one who only wants to talk about his rushing statistics. I've been talking about his impact on the game in multiple areas, both special teams and on offense, and also talking about how difficult it was for him to excel considering what he went up against on offense.

How in the heck-after several pages of us discussing his special teams numbers and how you don't like considering them-can you say that I'm only talking up his rushing stats? Seriously, do you have any clue how bad your posts in this thread make you look? It's almost like you're owning yourself here.

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I have no idea what you're trying to say.


I'm actually trying to point out how you keep contradicting yourself. Repeatedly. Over and over. Because you'd rather have your opinion be right than have your opinion be dictated by reality.

So if you have no idea, then look yourself in the mirror. Re-read what you've posted. You're busy confusing yourself, brochacho. The rest of us here are just amusing ourselves or scratching our heads waiting for you to tap out and save yourself some embarrassment.

After looking back over the last few pages, this is my impersonation of what you're doing to yourself:

This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 1:07 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83599 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:06 pm to
What in the actual frick? We're talking about freshman, not just any player going for 1000? Dude 7 freshman have gone for 1000 in the last 5 seasons. What are you talking about? How am I all over the place? You're trying to use return yards like they mean something. Put your 4th string RB back there and he's within 3 yards of whatever LF had. 11 of the 14 teams averaged over 20 yards per return. What was LF? Like 23? It means nothing. Absolutely nothing. Ok so now he was a good pass catcher, which I'm sure he is. But if I go look at the numbers are they going to be eye popping?

Your explanation of my argument is fricking ridiculous. And your argument is ridiculous. How the hell am I contradicting myself? I feel like you're trolling me.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 3:08 pm
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:21 pm to
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Once again you're leaving out context in order to try to win the argument as opposed to be objective.

We're talking about Freshman rushing for 1,000 yards. Not just anyone rushing for 1,000 yards.
Just off the top of my head, Gurley, Chubb, Collins, Lattimore, Dyer, & Yeldon all rushed for over a 1,000 yards as FR.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83599 posts
Posted on 7/23/15 at 3:34 pm to
Even if you don't agree with me, there's no way in hell to claim my argument is all over the place or contradicting itself. I've thoroughly explained the 1000 yards thing and given data on why I don't think his return yards mean anything.

Chubb had a season that would have lived up to LF hype. 61 yards from leading the SEC in rushing and started the year what, 3rd string?
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