re: SEC teams by 5*

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Absolutely. And he's also had the #1 clasds in the country for 5 years running. I'm just explaining what others in the thread are saying. Alabama fans seem to be perplexed that because they have by far the very best players, facilities and coaches that people think they should win every year.

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Saban won the 2009 BCS national championship 2 years after coming to Alabama. The 2007 recruiting class was mainly Shula's with no 5 stars in it, ranked #13 (7th in the SEC). It had only three 4-stars in it, Michael Ricks (academics ruled ineligible), Luther Davis (Saban's 1st Louisiana trophy), Brandon Gibson (really didn't pan out, played in only 4 games in 2009).

The 2008 class was very much better, ranked #3. Bama's 1st 5-stars in years.... Julio ( ), Tyler Love (didn't live up to expectations, played in six games as a reserve offensive tackle), & BJ Scott (loved him but could not find a spot for him, redshited in 2009, then transferred).

Bama won the 2009 National Championship with a Shula recruited, 3-star quarterback (McElroy), Shula's players (Tiffin, Arenas, Maze, Deaderick, Eryk Anders, Mike McCoy, OT Drew Davis, OG Mike Johnson), and Saban's sophmores (Julio, Ingram, Dareus, McClain, Upshaw, Hightower).